Jacksonville's Comments
| Changeset | When | Comment |
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| 174400351 | about 2 months ago | Yet the highway that links the Kartarpur corridor serves as a link between Narowal - a city and Dera Baba Nanak, a town. The corridor doesn't even directly connect the Gurudwara in Dera Baba Nanak, it connects it to the highway on the Indian side. |
| 173643356 | 2 months ago | So the road that links Narowal and Dera Baba Nank isn't a highway? The road that's called "Guru Nanak Highway" is merely a service road? By the way, It's connected to Narowal Road, which is a Primary road. This definitely deserves to be categorised as a secondary road. |
| 172504071 | 3 months ago | Hi, I have undone your changes. The condition of the track is poor, however it is still a major (Grand Truck) road. Any road that has a reference of N-* is usually a Grand Trunk Road. |
| 171988832 | 3 months ago | I mean worst comes to the worst, keep it as a locality, but there was no need for a block here. |
| 171988832 | 3 months ago | I did expect better from a former member of the OSM board, than to stoop to the level of potential doxxing, whether related or not, and then blocking me as well. I'm here to discuss, what is it that you require? Because all sources point to it being a town, hence my edit of changing the node to a town. I also don't see yourself to be a Pakistani that you might have on-the-ground knowledge for you to be able to firmly say I'm wrong? |
| 171988832 | 3 months ago | This is not a place for opinions, and from what can be seen on the Wikipedia article, the sources say it is a border *town*. |
| 171855820 | 4 months ago | Again when you accuse people of lying or decieving, you are doing nothing to solve the issue, but make it worse. I have asked you to come to PM, you have not messaged. This is a town. Youc an argue about its classification but you are being obnoxious by name calling and just evidently not trying to understand the underlying issue. |
| 171855820 | 4 months ago | Also it has a Wikidata tag, so you cannot remove the node because it affects Wikimedia sites as well. |
| 171855820 | 4 months ago | Alternatively, I will bring in a mediator to solve this. But, the current edits remain, because it adds information whereas you are attempting to remove them. |
| 171855820 | 4 months ago | What will certainly not happen is you attempting to call other users dishonest, and think that you can bully your way through it. |
| 171855820 | 4 months ago | You can either send me a PM about this, or we keep having this exchange, and I will continue to restore my edits. You have no basis. You are basing this on your own opinions, not on Ground sources which is what OSM is built up. |
| 171331449 | 4 months ago | Makkah is known for Masjid al-Haram. |
| 171331449 | 4 months ago | Makkah IS a city. |
| 171256012 | 4 months ago | In that same way, this is a highway that links two major towns – Kartarpur and Dera Baba Nanak. You should bear this in mind that Guru Nanak Highway links to a Primary road on one side, and it links to a G.T Road on the other. The road that links the other two cannot be a "service road". |
| 171256012 | 4 months ago | Yes, I understand that the road was built recently, but it was not built as a service road, but as a highway. They built this highway with the possibility that there might be two-way traffic. If you look at the original models of the complex, there were supposed to be two border terminals, and pilgrims from India have a seperate car parks so that they can drive all way to the Kartarpur Corridor. The highway has been built. The road access doesn't affect the road classification. That is the ground situation. Tomorrow they could state that it is a fully-fledged border crossing, but it would still be the same highway. The road didn't change. You don't change the roads, just because of politics, because politics changes all the time. You stated the news about the Ukraine-Russian borders, yet what you fail to realise is that the highways are still classified as highways. |
| 171256325 | 4 months ago | I can somewhat understand that other Indo-Pak crossings should typically have their access set to no, but on this particular crossing, I do think there should be full access. However, the road classifications shouldn't just change due to geopolitics. |
| 171256325 | 4 months ago | I didn't see the response for that, so I do appreciate it. In regards to the navigation, OSM is an offline map. It's up to the users to actually check the political situation and see whether borders are open or not. Otherwise, can go all the way to the gate, on the road that is known as. GT Road. If you look at any Ukraine-Russia border (such as the one at 50.335699, 36.282708), the road classification is still a highway, however the road access has been set to no. If a foreign tourist can drive from Europe to India, through Pakistan, through the Wagah border and OSM Maps or any of the navigation models should be able to display that route. |
| 171256012 | 4 months ago | And it is certainly not just a service road. Pakistanis have been alllowed to go to the border and back. Pedestrians have been to walk from the border to the complex and back. |
| 171256012 | 4 months ago | The Kartarpur Corridor DOES connect the two towns. It does not matter who is allowed to travel or not, the can be specificed in the notes or the road access can be specificed. One example being the Russo-Ukraine border highways - which are obviously defunct and crossings no longer take place, however they are still classified as Grand Trunk Roads. This, albeit, is not a grand trunk road, it is a primary/secondary road. Like I said - it is called "Guru Nanak Highway" for a reason. I see that you've also changed the road classification on the Indian side - which again, I have no idea why because it only seems to be of your opinon. |
| 171256012 | 4 months ago | One, the population is from 2017 and if I remember exactly was under the Narowal district. I could be wrong, but that doesn't really change the situation. The Gurudwara and the bazaar and housing complex are all in a town called Kartarpur. It's nonsensical to not have a town node here. Again, you need to think of the consequences of removing the node, the area becomes unsearchable, because while you can search Kartarpur and it might redirect you with the Gurudwara - the Gurudwara is a POI, not an area. Wikipedia and Wikidata also have articles on it, so I don't really see what standing you have here. |