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175056077 about 1 month ago

You can refer it to the data working group - and please keep in the loop. However, I don't get how you claim the official maps support you.

The official maps have the following road classifications.

1. Motorway
2. GT Road.
3. Other "main road", what we call a "shah-rah" in Urdu

An example of this given on the map is the Lahore-Qasur Road, and the same colour has been used for the Barki Road.

> You were the one who tried to arbitrarily upgrade the priority of this road.

Yes backed by other maps, such as the official maps. I've given you my reasons. Your only reason is "the border is closed" which is the same reason you've been repeating. I've given you several reasons.

> The LCCI map is extremely crudely drawn

The line literally touch the border line, I don't understand how clear you want it to be. You tried claiming that the Burki road is somehow disconnected from the Indian road, even though you can literally see from satellite view the roads are physically connected.

175056077 about 1 month ago

I take it from your lack of response that you have no further objections?

175056077 about 1 month ago

The point I'm trying to make is that, in every situation - this has been labelled as a main highway.

For you to try and convince other people that it isn't, is merely an abitary choice that you're making, same with the Guru Nanak Highway, and all the other classification of highways you've changed.

175056077 about 1 month ago

Same with:
1. https://reliefweb.int/map/pakistan/pakistan-lahore-district-reference-map-september-2014
2. https://lcci.pk/core/uploads/2019/05/map.pdf

As well as the official surveys of Pakistan:

1. https://surveyofpakistan.gov.pk/SiteImage/Downloads/road_map_punjab.pdf
2. https://surveyofpakistan.gov.pk/SiteImage/Downloads/province_map_punjab.pdf

175056077 about 1 month ago

See this map of the Lahore district which has also labelled Barki Road as a "main road" right till border.

https://eproperty.pk/map/lahore/lahore-district-map.html

175056077 about 1 month ago

FWIW, Google Maps has also labelled it as a major highway right till the zero line.

175056077 about 1 month ago

The road DOES connect. You purposefully deleted the node that linked the two roads connected, otherwise it's perfectly visible from satellite footage that the road are linked. Again, you're making these arbitary decisions without having any sort of decisions. Barki Road is indeed linked to the Indian highway across the border.

The only instance where this logic applies is the Khem Karan road where there used to be road, but the road has been diverted towards some other village and the road falls short of the military posts on both sides. Your logic, again, doesn't apply at Barki road.

> D 060 to Akhurik-Gyumri Highway M-7 after

Bruh, how is that even comparable here? The U-7 or M-7 isn't even directly linked to D 060 on the Turkish side. The Barki Road is directly connected to NH703B highway here. It's literally visible from the satellite. Barki Road is an artery of the Lahore city, that connects it to the Indian border.

> Also the R63 in Azerbaijan at the town of Heydarabad

Again, not comparable. The highways are, once again, not directly linked, and the roads aren't any important arteries of any city, like Barki Road, and the NH703B. The road literally ceases to exist at Way #1360179049 - this is plainly visble from the Sky.

Same with the rest of your examples. What I find amusing is that you've attempted to use the Armenia-Turkey Border situation, ie. they are all closed. Yet all the major highways still retain their classification like:

1. Way #120580504 M-3 to D977 is the perfect example - a primary road connecting into a GT road, both retaining their classification, despite the borders remaining closed.

2. Did any of the highways connecting into Russia or Ukraine have their classification changed?

3. What about Egypt-Gaza border highway or Gaza-Israel, which has been destroyed?

175056077 about 1 month ago

I'm awaiting your reply.

175056077 about 1 month ago

Which highway are you referring to between Armenia and Turkey?

And it does not matter if the border is closed. It is still the same highway that continues to link it to the physical border, and by extension the Indian town across the border. That makes it a primary road.

I've given you several examples of highways that link to closed borders, yet you aren't even willing to consider the other opinion.

You've restricted access to parts of the road that are like 300-400 meters away from border/military complex (not even the zero line), which is something that you've done previously for most of the border highways.

175056077 about 1 month ago

Did the classification of highways change during COVID when all the borders around the world were closed?

175056077 about 1 month ago

Instead of being stubborn can you give an example of where the classification of highways have changed because of borders have been closed? The Russ-Ukranian highway classifications haven't changed, neither any border highways in Afghanistan, or Iran-Turkey border highways.

174502134 about 2 months ago

If you attempt to revert the Kartarpur road, or the Burki road highway classification through big edits. I will escalate this, next time.

174501369 about 2 months ago

No it doesn't. You've made this up, you've been given examples of this before as well. This also shows you understand it's a highway, but your only reasoning is political.

That is against OSM's on the ground rule.

173911358 about 2 months ago

It has been explained to you know several occasions that the visa policies between two nations has no relation to the classification of highways.

Please stop changing highways which connect borders to service roads. They are not service roads. Service roads are something comepletely different. This has been the norm across OpenStreetMap.

174400351 about 2 months ago

Yet the highway that links the Kartarpur corridor serves as a link between Narowal - a city and Dera Baba Nanak, a town. The corridor doesn't even directly connect the Gurudwara in Dera Baba Nanak, it connects it to the highway on the Indian side.

173643356 2 months ago

So the road that links Narowal and Dera Baba Nank isn't a highway? The road that's called "Guru Nanak Highway" is merely a service road? By the way, It's connected to Narowal Road, which is a Primary road. This definitely deserves to be categorised as a secondary road.

172504071 3 months ago

Hi, I have undone your changes. The condition of the track is poor, however it is still a major (Grand Truck) road. Any road that has a reference of N-* is usually a Grand Trunk Road.

171988832 3 months ago

I mean worst comes to the worst, keep it as a locality, but there was no need for a block here.

171988832 3 months ago

I did expect better from a former member of the OSM board, than to stoop to the level of potential doxxing, whether related or not, and then blocking me as well.

I'm here to discuss, what is it that you require? Because all sources point to it being a town, hence my edit of changing the node to a town.

I also don't see yourself to be a Pakistani that you might have on-the-ground knowledge for you to be able to firmly say I'm wrong?

171988832 4 months ago

This is not a place for opinions, and from what can be seen on the Wikipedia article, the sources say it is a border *town*.