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123166642 over 3 years ago

I think this was a bad idea. Did you have a look at osm.wiki/Tag=leisure=horse_riding ? It says: "The tag is for the whole area which may contain one or more riding arenas, stables, riding halls, other related buildings or paddocks". I think the tag leisure=horse_riding was correct on the larger area and the riding arena (the smaller area where equestrian sports takes place) should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian; this is how it's usually done; compare the examples on the wiki page for horse_riding and also on the wiki page for pitch (leisure=pitch#Riding_arena.). If you want to add landuse=animal_keeping to leisure=horse_riding, I don't care, it doesn't hurt. But tagging a riding arena with leisure=horse_riding is like tagging a tennis court with leisure=sports_centre.

123166642 over 3 years ago

way/1075614049 looks more like a riding arena (jumping arena) than a riding centre in the aerial view. If this is true it should be tagged as pitch (sport=equestrian).

123088178 over 3 years ago

way/1075113495 und way/1075113496 sehen im Luftbild und von der Größe her für mich nach Reitplätzen aus und nicht nach Reitanlagen. Früher hast du sowas doch als pitche getaggt (z.B. way/846810554 und way/846810555) und so ist es ja nach Wiki auch richtig. Wieso machst du das denn neuerdings andersrum (es gibt noch andere Stellen als hier)?

123022706 over 3 years ago

way/986487671 and way/986487672 the same.

123022706 over 3 years ago

way/1074655784 looks more like a riding arena in the aerial view; riding arenas should be tagged with leisure=pitch, see leisure=pitch#Riding_arena . I wonder why you tagged it as riding centre.

122978756 over 3 years ago

Hi, I assume that way/1074363391 and way/1074363460 are for the riding rings described here; https://homesteadhorsefarm.com/about-us . If this is true the tag leisure=horse_riding is inappropriate for them and they should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, compare wiki. There is also a preset for such riding rings in iD with name "Horseback Riding Arena". Why didn't you use that instead of preset "Horseback Riding Center"? Maybe the presets can be improved somehow.

122339831 over 3 years ago

Thanks; I did it, see changeset/122613004 .
Here is something for tag leisure=horse_riding that is not mapped yet: https://www.malvernridingschool.co

116008110 over 3 years ago

I think, to make the tagging of this rancho compatible with the wiki the (round) riding arena would have to be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian (like here: way/1017919854) and leisure=horse_riding would also have to be removed from the buildings and instead be put only once for the whole rancho either on the node together with place=farm or on the area of the rancho (like here: way/543831678). Compare leisure=horse_riding . Do you agree?

122639372 over 3 years ago

In JOSM copy and paste works, see
* https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/26603/josm-how-i-can-copy-tags-from-one-object-to-another
* https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Shortcuts

122639372 over 3 years ago

Shouldn't the tags of node/3657032761 better be on way/1071755336 ? iD shows a warning for the node: "Horse Riding Centre Witney Pony Partners should be a standalone point based on ots tags". But a standalone point isn't necessary if it is mapped as an area.

63099033 over 3 years ago

Hi. Sorry, I don't know French and hope you understand English.
The riding areas (carrieres) should not be tagged with leisure=horse_riding but with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian., the area tagged with leisure=horse_riding should contain all the things that belong to the riding centre / centre equestre, compare osm.wiki/FR:Équitation and its links.

122502833 over 3 years ago

Great! Thanks. Can you also check the 6 arenas you mapped east of Melbourne 3 months ago?

98017428 over 3 years ago

Thanks for the quick response.

It is not urgent, and I would prefer if you do that yourself when your time will allow it because I assume that you know these places (and I don't).

And here is something additional:
way/304594155 is tagged with leisure=pitch but is probably a good candidate for leisure=horse_riding, compare http://equicampo.com/centro-equestre.html

98017428 over 3 years ago

Inside of way/899131558 (Centro Hípico da Paiâ) you seem to have mapped a large riding arena (way/899131575) with is tagged leisure=horse_riding too; so now you have 2 nested riding centres (leisure=horse_riding) there what doesn't make sense. The large riding arena should probably be retagged to leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian (leisure=pitch#Riding_arena).

(Recently added way/389588277 (Volteio) should probably also be retagged to leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian).

122547788 over 3 years ago

Hi, way/1071019768 ist eine Führanlage (osm.wiki/DE:Tag:animal=horse_walker). Das Tag leisure=horse_riding ist dafür sicher nicht geeignet, das ist für komplette Reitanlagen (osm.wiki/DE:Tag:leisure=horse_riding), also in diesem Fall wäre es einmalig für die gesamte Reitanlage Kurz an eine umschließende Fläche oder an einen Knoten anzubringen. Die Fläche way/97227756 ist auch keine Reitanlage, sondern (zumindest der größte Teil davon) ist ein Reitplatz und sollte als pitch getaggt werden (osm.wiki/DE:Tag:leisure=pitch#Reitplatz). Und die Reithalle way/97227754 ist auch keine Reitanlage (horse_riding), sondern ein Gebäude (osm.wiki/DE:Tag:building=riding_hall) - war ja auch zumindest mit building=yes getaggt bevor du es weggemacht hast. Ehrlich gesagt verstehe ich nicht, wie man das in iD jetzt noch verwechseln kann; es gibt doch da extra verschiedene Presets für "Reitplatz" und "Reitanlage". Wie soll man es denn noch einfacher machen? Vgl. https://juergen-kurz.jimdofree.com/anlage

122502833 over 3 years ago

Hi, it looks like you have mapped some riding arenas here but tagged them with leisure=horse_riding. This tag is not for riding arenas, riding arenas should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, see leisure=pitch#Riding_arena

122484165 over 3 years ago

way/1070457360 looks more like a riding arena in the aerial view. Typical size of a riding arena and nothing in it.

122474620 over 3 years ago

Wenn way/129021634 eine Freifläche ist kann man da wohl das leisure=horse_riding + sport=equestrian entfernen - oder? Wenn es ein Reitplatz wäre, müsste leisure=pitch statt leisure=horse_riding dran.

122339831 over 3 years ago

I looked at the last dozen or so changesets you made with the comment "Fix sport without physical feature". There you have always added leisure=horse_riding to areas tagged with landuse=meadow + sport=equestrian.

In aerial views most of these areas, like the one of this changest, look like normal meadows to me, no stables, sheds or other buildings in them, a few of them contain a riding arena and that's all. They don't look like riding centers or riding stables, for which the tag leisure=horse_riding was created (see wiki). An exception is Geen Street Farm/Stables (relation/9644521).

I don't think it's a good idea to add leisure=horse_riding to meadows just because they are tagged sport=equestrian and you want to get rid of the corresponding JOSM warning. I think the warning makes sense because a meadow alone is not a sports facility. If you think landuse=meadow + sport=equestrian is a reasonable tagging, you can ask the JOSM maintainers to remove the warning for that combination. This would still be better than tagging areas that are not horse riding facilities/centres/stables with leisure=horse_riding. There are more than 4.6k of such "equestrian meadows" mapped in your region! And this is by far the only region in the world with so many of them. And > 90% of them were mapped by only one mapper! The combination landuse=meadow + sport=equestrian is not described in the wiki and I don't know what it means. Do you know it? What does it mean?

121748278 over 3 years ago

way/1065412556 sieht im Luftbild für mich eher aus wie ein Reitplatz und nicht wie eine komplette Reitanlage, in diesem Fall wären dann da andere Tags sinnvoll, siehe osm.wiki/DE:Tag:leisure=pitch#Reitplatz