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144939887 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1229919288 ist keine Reitanlage, das ist eine Führanlage, siehe osm.wiki/DE:Tag:animal=horse_walker . Ich habe noch nie jemanden in einer Führanlage reiten sehen.

144306132 about 2 years ago

Sorry for the late response. Yes, looks good now.

144885339 about 2 years ago

Hi,
These small round pens like way/1229562954 are no riding centres (leisure=horse_riding); they should better be tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian. See
osm.wiki/Tag%3Aleisure%3Dhorse_riding and compare way/1185163885/history

To find the preset for tagging riding arenas in JOSM search for "equestrian" or use the link at the bottom of the horse_riding preset.

143820695 about 2 years ago

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144849070 about 2 years ago

Hi,
Here you have a) re-tagged a riding arena to a riding center and b) tagged an indoor riding arena as another riding center. I think the previous tagging was perfectly fine. You have re-tagged some other riding arenas in a similar way (e.g. way/1228970021/history). I find that weird and am curious to know why you did that.

Web page https://www.pizazzfarm.com/facility-rentals says that the farm contains an indoor arena and an outdoor arena. Wiki page osm.wiki/Tag%3Aleisure%3Dhorse_riding says "Use this tag only once for the whole facility, don't use it multiple times on different objects belonging to it (one feature, one OSM element rule ...)". Otherwise there will be more than one riding center on the map where in reality there is just one! Therefore I would not add this tag to the arenas but instead create a new object (area or node) for the whole farm and tag that with leisure=horse_riding. Example: way/842259858

144855000 about 2 years ago

Hi,
I see that this was only your 2nd changeset.
The area you re-tagged was previously tagged as a building, and I assume that building is still there. But the iD editor has removed the building tag because you re-tagged it as a riding center. Now it no longer shows up as a building on the map because there is no longer a building=* tag.
I also assume that Paddock Paradise consists of more than just this building.
I therefore suggest to add the building tag again and for the whole Paddock Paradise better create a new object (area or node) . Compare
osm.wiki/Tag%3Aleisure%3Dhorse_riding
way/957096647 (good area example)
node/6140383631 (node example)

144858869 about 2 years ago

This area looks like a riding arena and not like a riding centre. The same is true for way/1229253932. Riding arenas should be tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian. Compare previous discussions:
changeset/144783334
and
changeset/144858341

144858341 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1229251266 is a riding arena and not a riding centre, riding arenas should be tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian

way/1229251265 : a horse walker is not a riding centre either; I have never seen anyone ride in a horse walker. Tagging see wiki page.

Compare
osm.wiki/Tag%3Aleisure%3Dhorse_riding
animal=horse_walker
changeset/144783334 (prev. discussion)
way/125002481 (good example)

144783334 about 2 years ago

Thanks for the improvements. (An appropriate undocumented tag is better than an inappropriate documented tag, IMHO).

As far as the riding arenas are concerned, this preset is absolutely not impossible to find. If in iD you search for just "horse", the preset "Horseback Riding / Rodeo Arena" is listed after "Horseshoes Pit", "Horse Racetrack" and "Horse Race Course". This is iD without AI, it cannot read your mind what you want to map. So if you want to map a riding arena I would recommend to search for "riding arena", then the corresponding preset is listed at the top of the list.

For horse walkers there is no preset yet, you have to search in the wiki and type it in; compare https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/issues/835

144730826 about 2 years ago

Thanks for your PN. I have tried to correct the tagging. Please check it.

144783334 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1228803041 is not a riding_centre (leisure=horse_riding), it is a riding arena. Riding arenas are usually tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian and there is a separate preset in iD that does that. Compare leisure=horse_riding

way/1228803042 is not a riding_centre (leisure=horse_riding) either, it is a horse walker, like in older discussion changeset/129900838#map=16/50.8452/4.5144

144730826 about 2 years ago

Hi,
Please tag riding arenas differently from riding centres.
way/1228495467
way/1228495468
way/1228495469
are riding arenas and should be tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian (the last one is not really an arena but just round pen, but they are usually also tagged like arenas). iD has a separate preset for riding arenas.

node/11392666605 is for the whole riding centre. This is ok, but there should be only one object (node or way) tagged with leisure=horse_riding for every riding centre.

Related information:
leisure=horse_riding
https://www.facebook.com/people/Sátorkő-Lovasiskola/100063673595807
relation/16784595

144697826 about 2 years ago

Oops, hadn't seen that this is in Belgium. So here is the English translation:

Hi,
way/1004981814 is not a riding facility. It's a horse walker, see animal=horse_walker . I have never seen anyone ride in a horse walker.

144697826 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1004981814 ist keine Reitanlage. Das ist eine Führanlage, siehe osm.wiki/DE:Tag:animal=horse_walker . Habe noch nie jemanden in einer Führanlage reiten sehen.

144548531 about 2 years ago

Hi,
die Flächen, die du hier mit leisure=horse_riding getaggt hast, sind keine centres équestres. way/1227350454 ist vermutlich ein Reitplatz, der a
dann mit leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian zu taggen wäre (was du ja in ähnlichen Fällen bisher auch gemacht hast). way/1227350452 und way/1227350453 könnten Flächen für die Haltung von Pferden sein (Paddocks, landuse=animal_keeping).
Vgl. osm.wiki/FR:Équitation

144481556 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1227005185 looks like a riding arena. Riding arenas are usually tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian and there is a preset in iD for riding arenas that does that.
You have tagged this area leisure=horse_riding which is for complete riding centres.
Please compare the following example and wiki page:

Riding arena:
way/1097626320

Wiki:
leisure=horse_riding

144440224 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1226699570 looks like a riding arena (and not like a riding centre), similar to way/1112674370. Riding arenas should be tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, see osm.wiki/FR:Tag:leisure=horse_riding

144387263 about 2 years ago

Hi,
It seems to be the riding centre describeb on this webpage:
https://www.visit-halkidiki.gr/portfolio-view/horseback-riding-school/
This is what could be tagged leisure=horse_riding

144387263 about 2 years ago

Hi,
The areas you have tagged leisure=horse_riding here are no riding centres, they are riding arenas or paddocks. Riding arenas are usually tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian and in iD there is a preset that does that (in German: "Reitplatz").
The tag leisure=horse_riding is for complete riding centres and shall only be used once for every centre (because in reality this centre exits only once). Please compare the following information and example:

leisure=horse_riding

way/547296472

144371796 about 2 years ago

Hi,
way/1226206871 looks like a riding arena. Riding arenas are usually tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian and there is a preset in iD that does that. Maybe there is something wrong with the et translation, I don't know.
You have tagged this area leisure=horse_riding which is for complete riding centres. Maybe there is such a riding centre of which the arena and the stable are part of, I don't know. Please see the following examples and wiki pages how it could be mapped:

Riding arena:
way/1097626320

Valgeranna tall:
way/815489443

Husön ratsastuskesku (Finnland):
way/1191597367

Wiki:
leisure=horse_riding