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I went along with Shaun to a little community meeting of Green Enthusiasts in Bermondsey. A group called BARGEs.

They were interested in mapping parks and green spaces in the area. Of course we already have the big and medium-sized parks on there. They had documents about a whole bunch of tiddly little parks, so Shaun demonstrated how to add them to the map. Some of them weren't familiar with the project at all, so I gave them the spiel on what OpenStreetMap is about, and got talking about the kind of unique things they could do with OpenStreetMap, and why the council's lovely ultra-detailed GIS systems wouldn't necessarily allow them to do those things (all Ordnance Survey derived)

Thamas Wood was also there, creator of the Sutton Green Map. Had a quick chat with him about that, although sadly I couldn't stick around long enough. That site does nifty mash-up type things with pins (including live updating mysociety feeds), but understandably he said a custom rendering tool chain (mapnik install etc) was too much hassle. I guess this could be a good use case for rustling up a 'green map' style in cloudmade style editor

One thing that's clear, is that these localised community organisations should be targeted with more OpenStreetMap evangelism. They have great local knowledge and enthusiasm about details on a local level. A lot of the stuff they do is based at specific locations. These kinds of organisation can also benefit massively from a little bit of smart map technology, to do something powerful on their websites and coordinate their activities.

So last night was fun. Londoners don't forget: Random pub meetup in Liverpool Street TONIGHT! (Wednesday)

Location: South Bermondsey, Bermondsey, London Borough of Southwark, Greater London, England, SE16 3BZ, United Kingdom
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Discussion

Comment from Tom Chance on 18 February 2009 at 14:19

Thanks for the report, Harry! I got in touch with them too, I live & map in Southwark and have been in touch with BARGEs through Southwark Green Party anyway. Thomas and I have talked a bit about taking our Sutton map ideas to Southwark.

A green map style would be good, I spent ages playing with Mapnik for the Sutton map which was fun, but it was quite a lot to maintain and the OSM stylesheet kept adding more useful features so our style ended up being less useful.

One thing I wonder is whether we stick to Open Layers or use the CloudMade API, and also if we can grab tiles made with the style editor and pull them into a standard OpenLayers site? I also want to pull in the OpenStreetBugs stuff that the Midlands guys integrated into their Mappa Mercia site.

Comment from smsm1 on 18 February 2009 at 15:48

Tom Chance: You can use the CloudMade tiles in whatever app or js slippy map engine that you want, as long as you sign up for your own api key.

You may find WML will be easier to use, or have certain features that OL doesn't have.

Eventually OSB will be integrated in the main osm website.

Comment from IgnoredAmbience on 19 February 2009 at 12:33

I'd be interested what WML can do that OL can't :)

The mappa mercia OSB code is just a rip of the stuff from the OSB site, which isn't the nicest code in the first place, I'll probably get around to writing my own OL-side implementation of it.

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