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I'm back in London after a good Christmas holiday. I managed to progress the Holmfirth map a little bit, but perhaps more importantly I managed to teach my Dad to edit the map... maybe. It feels a little bit touch and go whether he will manage to master the technicalities of it after I've gone. It does look as though he will have the enthusiasm to go out and gather some more traces some time soon, so then hopefully he will be forced to remind himself how to edit some time in the near future. So the hope is that it will turn out like the "Teach a man to fish" proverb, except it's "teach a dad to map". This has also given me some ideas for things to explain differently in the Beginners Guide, and also some little things which could be more newbie friendly in JOSM.

I did a quick bit of mapping in Leeds, adding some bits to the little suburb of Chapel Allerton. Why is it that yahoo has no aerial imagary of this the UK's 5th biggest city? If anyone's experimenting with rocket/kite/balloon photography, this would be a good place to do it. In the meantime the Leeds community is doing an admirable job of mapping the city centre without it. Likewise in sheffield. I was able to just use the map while I was visiting there, which is always nice.

So back in London now, and it's the first London meet-up of 2009 on Wednesday.

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Discussion

Comment from Igor Shubovych on 5 January 2009 at 22:38

Would be great if you share your ideas about Beginners Guide and JOSM.

Comment from Harry Wood on 6 January 2009 at 10:46

Don't worry I'm going to edit the beginners guide myself some time soon, and my ideas for JOSM UI tweaks I guess I should add as JOSM trac tickets

Comment from Richard on 6 January 2009 at 16:20

Could you be persuaded to "slash and burn" rather than "edit", Harry?

Comment from Harry Wood on 6 January 2009 at 17:07

Heh. Yeah I've steered clear of the Beginners Guide for a long time because there's lots of awkward duplication and general mess in there, but I guess there is a demand for one-stop sequential guide. Pondering ways of improving it... but slash and burn is tempting

Comment from Richard on 6 January 2009 at 23:28

Essentially I think it just needs to be four single pages:

1. what OSM is and how it works (including brief explanation of copyright and GPSs);
2. how and when to use Potlatch;
3. how and when to use JOSM;
4. an introduction to the OSM community, and ideas for where to go next.

All the core stuff, but nothing more, should be on these pages. Trouble-shooting stuff (e.g. how to download tracks from your GPS, which GPS to buy, etc.) should be on separate pages - ideally those which are already on the wiki.

We don't need a comprehensive manual, just a getting-started guide. Something like osm.wiki/Beginners_Guide_1.5 is way too much detail (I mean, does a newbie really need to know how Osmarender works?), and I think we can be fairly light on the "why do it", too - if you've gone to the Beginners' Guide, you already want to do it.

Happy to help if you get stuck into it. :)

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