> There is nothing saying it cannot other than your opinion.

And established usage before NE2 Smashtagging.

> By your logic, I-10 and I-40 should have significant sections marked as "trunk"

Selective choice of edge case there.

> and I-90 should switch to "trunk" west of I-5 in Seattle.

motorway_link would make more sense in that case.

No, motorways do not have at grade intersections, nor are they single carriageway. By the same logic you're suggesting, a lot of single carriageway in California and Washington are motorway because those states call all expressways and freeways as motorway and neither state should have anything tagged as trunk at all. Good thing we're going with what's on the ground and not what the DOT calls it.

Should be West Reno Avenue, not W Reno Ave, but other than that, seems to look good.
---

Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/64965322

Given that we do have a distinction between freeways (which are fully controlled, grade seperarated and at least two carriageways) and expressways (which are semi-controlled, dual carriageway and may contain a mix of at-grade and grade-seperated crossings and possibly driveways; or single carriageway and grade separated), does it not make sense to have this same distinction with trunk and motorway? I'm honestly not sure when this got so muddied so many people are dogpiling on this changeset now.

That would make it a motorway with an at-grade intersection. Motorways have NO at-grade intersections.

@Duke87: The at grade junction makes it not a motorway. I would prefer it to be from the last major (like with a numbered route) junction on a consistency basis, as it's not reasonable to expect at-grade cross-traffic on a motorway by definition. That said, I believe we've come to an overall agreement that Apache is a good place to split.

@cl94: Sure, if you want to go with NE2's torquing of the motorway and trunk tags that we've spent the last several years trying to clean up.

@baveggies9999: No, I'm saying these weren't classified well to start with, whether they got imported from low quality TIGER data or NE2 smash-tagging the entire continent at once on multiple occasions before we had good tools to monitor for such editing. Going purely by the precedent set by low quality data and vandalism isn't exactly the best precedent available.

184: No, that's motorway. US 26 past the end of 184? Trunk.

115: Trunk.

587: Trunk.

Yes, we should be using uniform standards. Motorways are fully grade seperated and dual carriageway between major junctions. Trunks may have a mix or terminate at-grade.

motorways do not have at-grade intersections, trunks do.

Though an argument could be made that 705 should be a trunk north of 509 given that if you try to drive any of that highway like it's a motorway, you're gonna end up in the harbor.

I'd have mapped 509 a little more similarly to Gilcrease Expressway over Peoria Avenue, sight unseen, but having driven 509 before, yeah, I'd call that a trunk. Same with 705 north of 9th Street's ramps.

I'd split US 40/189 between motorway and trunk at UT 319, trunk south of that junction.

I think if any place would be a good way to split this, the Apache Street junction would be the spot. Tisdale Parkway was also built aspirationally, and doesn't carry much traffic (usually on par with North Peoria or Gilcrease Museum Road).

Generally speaking, though, once you get past the last junction with another major (like, gets-a-state-or-higher route relation level or meets a motorway) route, the whole feel of the highway significantly changes. Having driven Tisdale, this tends to occur at the northwest corner of the Inner Dispersal Loop.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/64957536 where the changeset comment is: This is a trunk, it has surface intersections.

Except for the intersections at 36th and Gilcrease. It's a trunk.
---
#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/64919426

This house is in the middle of the street?
---

Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/64917439

Oh, they changed the name? That was fast.
---
#REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/64757355

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/64718412 where the changeset comment is: Removing SEO spam.

Seems like this is an unnamed driveway.
---
#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/64584183

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/64609710 where the changeset comment is: Highway numbers are not names.

Names are only the names. State Highway 117 is not a name, it's a ref.
---
#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/64585384