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154056979 over 1 year ago

It is a Klettersteig that goes through a small cave. People pass from one side of the Grat to the other.

155746592 over 1 year ago

Thanks for that clarification, Luzandro!

155746592 over 1 year ago

"The rest I just saw on the aerial photos from BEV. "
... so it seemed like a fair expectation that it would continue like in the section I saw.

155746592 over 1 year ago

If you really wish to be completely pedantic, you can cut it back to where it was originally, up to the water pond for live stock. Up to here I can confirm that it is clearly visible and flat, can't be mistaken. The rest I just saw on the aerial photos from BEV.
Yes, it does seem a soft soil. I just crossed it, did not really walk on it for longer distance. It seems like one of those tracks for getting the hay out of the pastures.

155746592 over 1 year ago

I myself have seen the part up until the water pond. Actually, a few. The rest of the track is clearly visible on BEV INSPIRE, which usually has more fresh imagery, and as can be seen above in the Tags section, so I'm not sure which aerial photo you are referring to.

155119155 over 1 year ago

I agree with what you are saying but that is just another way of looking at the same thing.
I would refer you to the path examples: osm.wiki/Path_examples
in particular
"A path with no signs at all but too narrow for motorcars so it's not a highway=track but starts from the end of a track. Allowed and not totally unsuitable for cycling, but known to be walkable.", and
"A path through an urban forest as in "there is something used for transport"; walking is possible on dry and non-winter days with a sure foot, but you wouldn't route anyone there."
I don't see you adding any scrubs to mark an impassable terrain but you simply removed the path, instead.
There is a lot of dead-end paths on Hochschwab exactly for the reason you mention, although it is perfectly walkable. Do these dead ends mark that you can't go further? Or do they mean it's open to go wherever you want? It's a huge difference.

155119155 over 1 year ago

Or seasonal=*

155119155 over 1 year ago

Potential solutions to the issues you raise are
`access:conditional`, `intermittent`, `date_on/off`.

155119155 over 1 year ago

I plan to actually do a survey of this exact path on Tuesday.

155119155 over 1 year ago

Auto correction: unable = usable

155119155 over 1 year ago

Hi. You raise several interesting issues here.
1. Don't add GPX traces... Why not? Does that not prove that someone has used that path? Do you think that, if a path is unable only half a year, it should not be on the map? Should we remove all paths on Hochschwab because they are not unable when the snow falls?
2. "There are no paths... You can walk everywhere". This seems to be a contradiction. If a way is walkable, then it is a path. How else do you define a path? How do you calculate the distance or time across a walkable terrain, if there is no path? How do you mark passages that are safe to walk on, vs getting seriously injured or worse?

154892962 over 1 year ago

Will confirm next week when I do this tour.

155117684 over 1 year ago

I will confirm this next week, when I'm on the spot, following this path.

154891521 over 1 year ago

I have provided a reference that confirms that a path exist. What is your information based on?

154892962 over 1 year ago

I'm sorry but people have used this path, it is in their GPX. That is exactly what a path is - a walkable section.

154890098 over 1 year ago

Das genau ist die Definition von einem Weg, glaube ich.

148908754 almost 2 years ago

No worries. Please feel free to delete the ones that are not possible to go through, or add an appropriate difficulty.
On one of the changesets I did actually request a review. Thank you so much for reviewing this. It will help people like me have more fun the next time!
I was there just now, over Easter, and it looks quite different than on aerial photos, that's for sure. :)
Also, you can cross check with BEV Inspire. Those photos are a bit different than Ortfoto.
But, since you know the area, please feel free to adjust as it is on the ground. Thanks again! I may get in touch with you when I'm back in the summer. ;)

148908754 almost 2 years ago

I've just gone through this changeset and there are many paths that I've drawn based on the BEV airplane photos.

148908754 almost 2 years ago

Hi! Yes, you are right. I was preparing for spending a few days there and exploring the area, trying to connect the existing paths. However, after being there on snow, it is more likely that these are not actually passable due to steep terrain.
I'd be happy to delete these changes if we can find a way to list them.

146978796 almost 2 years ago

Moze li neko na terenu potvrditi da ove staze stvarno vise ne postoje?
Pjesacke staze na Trebevic su oznacene i odrzavane. Cudi me da ih vise nema.