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137407942 over 2 years ago

Everyone will get blocked for vandalism when they remove things that actually exist. Just like you.

137407942 over 2 years ago

Dear Anders Wiig, there is a clearly visible road here on aerial imagery. Your deletion of valid data amounts to vandalism. Please do not do this again or your account will have to be blocked. If using the road is illegal for some reason (and this is obvious from on-the-ground signage) then you can add appropriate access tags to the road (e.g. access=private for a private road).

The fact that a structure has been built illegally is never sufficient reason to remove it from OSM. We don't delete a building from OSM just because it has been erected without permission either!

Best regards, Frederik Ramm, OSMF Data Working Group (
Ticket#2023061610000139)

137376570 over 2 years ago

0-hour block issued asking user to use proper changeset comments in osm.org/user_blocks/7211

137218043 over 2 years ago

Name edits to the Persian Gulf require prior consensus on OSM mailing list/community forum. Please do not edit this without discussing first. Also, never make an important change like this and specify only "..." as a reason. This edit is now reverted.

137140211 over 2 years ago

What you saying there is a grandiose misrepresentation of the situation. You feel entitled to apply your reasoning to Ukraine no matter how much the locals dislike it, and I'm telling you no, you are not entitled to. To avoid any misunderstandings, Crimea also counts as "Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia" and I will not have you stoke the flames there either.

137140211 over 2 years ago

Dear michael60634, it is not for you to decide what English names in Ukraine should be written as. You have been involved in conflicts with members of the Ukrainian community before and the DWG has admonished the other side to remain civil. However this is not a pissing contest and we will not tolerate you riling the Ukrainian community from the comfort and safety of your home, only to then come running and complain about the abusive comments you receive and asking us to take action against those whom you have upset. Please cease any and all mapping in Ukraine - including Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia - for the duration of the war. Thank you - Frederik Ramm, OSMF Data Working Group, Ticket#2023060510000151

137056738 over 2 years ago

The issue is that we would prefer people from outside the Ukraine to map outside the Ukraine - whether things are objectively wrong or not. We have, on occasion, allowed the Ukrainian community to map objectively wrong things on purpose (e.g. to remove military installations even when they are still there in reality). You cannot know the priorities of the Ukrainian community from a distance, and hence - unless help is specifically requested - we're asking outsiders to apply their mapping energy elsewhere.

136427088 over 2 years ago

What is the source of the detailed railway information added in this changeset?

136643941 over 2 years ago

What is the provenance of the "Geojson data file" mentioned in the sources?

137126361 over 2 years ago

What is the source of this power line information?

137056738 over 2 years ago

Ruben, Frederik from the DWG here. I understand that you thought you were doing a good thing by helping with the map but we'd really prefer that - unless the Ukrainian community is asking for help which they currently aren't - contributors from outside the Ukraine spend their time elsewhere at this time. It is very easy to accidentally upset a nation already ravaged by war. Mappers in Ukraine have access to the same materials that you do and they will usually be better able to draw the right conclusions from it.

I know I would feel a little peeved if something blew up in my country and mappers from the other side of the planet were flocking towards the disaster area in order to map it. It would feel like being in an accident and people rubbernecking on the other lane!

Again, appreciate the desire to help but please only help in Ukraine when asked.

136183556 over 2 years ago

May I inquire what the data source for this 5,500 member multipolygon is? You have not specified any but it can hardly have been hand-drawn?

122225113 over 2 years ago

Hallo uboot, die DWG hat eine Beschwerde des Eigentümers der Wasserstelle node/4363704826 - sie sei angeblich "Privatwasser". Kannst Du dazu etwas sagen?

136996215 over 2 years ago

Please refrain from "disaster tourism" mapping like this. The Ukrainian community is perfectly capable of recording destruction themselves where it is deemed useful. There's no need for people from other parts of the world to race to be the first to translate their TV news into Ukraine mapping.

136995700 over 2 years ago

Please refrain from "disaster tourism" mapping like this. The Ukrainian community is perfectly capable of recording destruction themselves where it is deemed useful. There's no need for people from other parts of the world to race to be the first to translate their TV news into Ukraine mapping.

137011904 over 2 years ago

Please refrain from "disaster tourism" mapping like this. The Ukrainian community is perfectly capable of recording destruction themselves where it is deemed useful. There's no need for people from other parts of the world to race to be the first to translate their TV news into Ukraine mapping.

137007797 over 2 years ago

Please do not post unproven allegations in changeset comments as they will only lead to unnecessary discussions. I have hidden a changeset discussion entry above that was a result of this.

137024390 over 2 years ago

Please refrain from "disaster tourism" mapping like this. The Ukrainian community is perfectly capable of recording destruction themselves where it is deemed useful. There's no need for people from other parts of the world to race to be the first to translate their TV news into Ukraine mapping.

136316206 over 2 years ago

Is there any indication that your "Southernmost continental point of Eurasia" is indeed a "tourist attraction"? Is there any signage on the ground? It appears to me that you have imported a lot of "extreme points" from Wikidata just based on the fact that they are "extreme points". It is easy to use OSM to compute the extreme points of each country but will we add all of them to OSM as "tourist attractions"?

136961227 over 2 years ago

Du hast eine falsche Definition von Vandalismus ("kommentarloses Löschen von Wegen ist per definitionem Vandalismus") und hast das hier zum Ausdruck gebracht: note/3712194 - wenn Du nicht ebenso falsche Definitionen der Worte "vorwerfen" und "niemand" hast, dann hast Du hier eben genau das gemacht.

Dieses Mapillary-Bild vom südlichen Ende des Wegs mit dem geparkten Pferdeanhänger, entspricht das auch heute noch der Realität - steht der da als Sperre oder stand der nur zufällig da, als das Mapillary-Bild aufgenommen wurde? https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1120178151910686&lat=51.930666388889&lng=8.3756913888889&z=17&focus=photo - und diese Vegetation am Nordende https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=148823227617952&lat=51.932115&lng=8.3759997222222&z=17&focus=photo ist das für Dich wirklich "problemlos begehbar"? Aus der Entfernung würde ich es so einschätzen, dass 90% der Wanderer an jedem der beiden Enden umdrehen und einen der parallelen Wege einschlagen würden. Wie dick müssten die Stämme der Bäumchen werden, bevor Du sagst: "Ok, da ist wirklich kein Weg mehr"?

Ich sehe da ein gewisses Dilemma. Der "offizielle" Weg scheint tatsächlich hier entlang zu gehen, aber wirklich sinnvoll ist das nicht, wenn ich mir die Beschreibungen den X2 auf den Seiten durchlese, klingt das alles so nach Spaziergang mit Kinderwagen, und wenn die Betreiber solche Passagen erlauben, müssten sie das zumindest in der Dokumentation erwähnen. Vielleicht sollten wir uns mal unter Verweis auf die Mapillary-Bilder an die Wegbetreiber wenden und fragen, ob dieser Wegverlauf ihr Ernst ist. Vermutlich ist das ein Fehler, und der Weg sollte eigentlich über den Fußweg "Zur Ikel" westlich gehen.