@Zartbitter: But why not publish non-odbl data until odbl is ready? My customer whould kill me, if I switch off the old system before the new system in running fine. OK. There was a time schedule till 1.4. non odbl and than odbl, but this means there should be a switch from non odbl to odbl. If odbl is delayed you need to delay switching off non odbl. I just can’t see any reason.

So the diffs from 2012-4-4 to 2012-4-11 will not be available, not as diffs and not in a full dump? Not nice for me.

The software for the licence change is now developed and tested, but not yet applied? That’s ok for me, better well developed and well tested, but that’s no reason to stop old license dumps.

You mean I should use the planet file from the old server from http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ last version from 1.4.2012 and the dayly-diffs from the new server starting on 11.4.2012?

I think the database was writable before.

Now it seems to be working again.

Now the main page is available again, but not the custom build maps.
Custom: unavailable

To use the data overlay I recommend to zoom in as far as possible :-)

I would guess, that you look at a highway/path which is on Mapnik displayed grey dotted. But on Osmarender not dotted and on Cyclemap brown dotted.

You wrote:
"-- look for bad names, general names (New York Map, Berlin Map, ...)"

These look like city apps:
http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/berlin-map/id398454229?mt=8
Have a look at the comments :-)

But in this case, the referer is needed to analyse the traffic or api-keys.
All the discussion about mobile apps versus browsers doesn't help.

Maybe we will have much more traffic soon.
Google maps will charge soon.

English: http://googlegeodevelopers.blogspot.com/2011/10/introduction-of-usage-limits-to-maps.html

German comment naming OSM as free alternative: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,794935,00.html

@alexz: you did it, great :-)

Shouldn't all the Browsers be clumpled by Referer?

Apps should show wether it is online or offline-download like openmaps now.

Apps with more than x downloads need to be known with contact.

@alexz: You found another lake with the same name. Your one is not missing, mine is missing.

Do you mean osm.org/?lat=41.67796&lon=-87.80479&zoom=16&layers=M ?
A permalink is very helpful for people who don't know what you mean.

And it es still missing. Do you want to add it?
Do you ask somebody to add it? Do you ask for help, how to add it?

Ich denke es geht um das Overlay and das stammt nicht aus den aktuellen OSM-Daten.
Die Daten sind im JS-Code fest kodiert, der Webmaster kann das also ändern.
Wenn da eine falsche Telefonnummer steht, sollte man das doch auch ändern können.
Vielleicht war das aber ein Praktikant und der ist nicht mehr da :-)

@dcp: I will decrease the tile traffic by 0% maybe 0.1%. The discussion is about the tiles and not the size of the database or api-traffic.

@amm: and without throttling MOBAC would be 50% and together with the other evil apps it will be 250% and that much will kill any hardware. :-)

Less than 10% is not really much, but still too much.
Even if MOBAC had it's own tileserver, the network problem is not solved.
Just wait a month or two and 1000 new users and it will be the same level.

I think the idea to send diffent UA for viewing and for bulk download is a good idea from openmaps (see http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-October/060336.html )

@Firefishy: And thanks for your work :-)

@Firefishy: is 73 tile request per second the peak or average?
How much in percent is 73 out of all tile requests?
Do you mean 73 tile requests per second from one user (one IP)?
Is it possible to lower the limits?

It will be difficult to find a solution, if everything is mixed up.

I have never paid 4EUR for an OSM-app. But in case I meet somebody who sells it, I will ask him to give his app out for free. The problem is, that in this case more people will use the mobile app and you will have more traffic.

Do you think OSM should get part of the money?
Why don't you ask for donations for the traffic problem?
Why is a free app better than a paid app?
For me it's better, because I don't have to pay, but for you?

For most people it is not obvious, that editing OSM is allowed but viewing is not allowed?
Is is ok, if I send a friend a permalink, so I can see where I live or where I have been or where some interesting location is? My friend is no editor.
But he will use his browser and not his mobile, so it's ok.

I am quite sure Google has more than one tileserver in more than one location.
Maybe OSM should look for tilemirrors. Which means also more traffic at first.