Hi, I noticed a few issues with this changeset related to street connectivity:
- The south end of Beach 33rd Street passes through two chain link fences
- The service road extension at Beach 36th Street also routes through a fence

Details of these connections may not be visible in aerial imagery, but ground surveys confirm these connections are not physically accessible.

I'll proceed to correct these specific routing errors. When mapping from imagery, please cross-check with recent survey data and other map information. Thanks!

Thank you!

Thanks I'll evaluate these in relation to building outlines. I was going to revert this changeset but it looks like you have already done that.

For North Conduit Avenue, are there any signs indicating bicycles are prohibited on those ways? In NY State, other than certain types of named roadways (e.g. expressway), bicycles are allowed on all roadways unless there are explicit signs prohibiting access.

Hi, I noticed that some edits from a few months ago have been reverted (deletion of the sidewalk:both separate) tag as one example. I'm not sure if that was intentional because the tag was added back a few days later. Could you check that you have up to date map data, perhaps these reverts are occurring because historical data is being used?

Thank you!

Thanks for the quick updates, was just checking if these recent changes were added.

Thank you!

Description should have been for changing the surface type on this way!

Meant to tag change with source=survey.

Is it standard practice to have informal ways meant for cyclists alongside another way that has the `bicycle=permissive` tag?

Asking about way/1001065267, which leads to the same road as way/538817698, other than terminating at the node with Continental Avenue which is an opposing oneway way.

So I'm unsure how this eases bicycle travel when the adjacent way is usable by cyclists. Is the informal way meant to be used as a shortcut to then travel backwards down the oneway way?

I would expect most routing software would not suggest that as a route.

Yes on page 34. Yes it is implemented, I was physically there on 2023-08-11.

The changes are reverted. Do you know of any mapped examples where there is a pedestrian street similar to this one, with no physical division with the street, and no crossings other than the ones indicated by the dedicated footways?

One block north on East Gun Hill Road, Seymour Avenue is mapped similar to these changes; even though there was once a split in the road. Should a pedestrian street be added there as well?

The DOT documentation for these changes indicates these areas as painted curb extensions, with the remaining street proceeding in a single direction. Are curb extensions usually indicated as pedestrian streets?
https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/gun-hill-rd-cab4-feb2023.pdf

It was to add in the larger pedestrian area, following how similar areas were mapped such as in Fort Greene Park. I see now that the documentation says to use both lines and areas, so will add back the through connections even though there is no linear route.

Thank you. I pulled the data and visualized it separately, but this resource looks to show similar info!

It can be added back as a pedestrian street, but would that be accurate because the connection to East Gun Hill Road doesn't go anywhere? There are no crossings at that node, or the Knapp Street / Fenton Avenue node.

Will do, thank you for the feedback!

Relevant documentation link: sidewalk:right=*

I added a response to the other edit clarifying the decision.

I previously read through through the documentation and considered both of these options.

The =permit tag does not apply here as it's defined by a permit that is "routinely granted to everyone requesting it", and there was no indication that access was allowed for anyone other than people affiliated with the college.

In the documentation there doesn't appear to be any indication of =customers being used for college campuses, and it's centered around whether or not a person is willing to pay. The description also mentions that membership clubs are generally tagged as =private.

In both cases the most applicable tag appears to be =private. What other information would you suggest checking to determine the correct tag for this area?

Could you share where there may be discussion or consensus somewhere on how to apply these tags for college campuses of this type?