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150858175 over 1 year ago

Thanks for mapping this. I meant to get back to mapping Hidden Lakes after our recent visit.

I see that you connected the path to the driveway. That is great. To complete the routing you will also want to connect other connected things. In this case driveways and/or parking isle ways to the parking lot area.

Not sure that you do this, but a related mistake that I used to make was connecting unrelated things. A big one I see all the time is land use areas and boundaries connected to all kinds of unrelated things.

150915972 over 1 year ago

For routing, please connect the river's way where it crosses the edges of its areas.
Also, for routing and other reasons, I prefer to use multiple connected areas over giant relations. See how the Grand River has been mapped as an example.

The Michigan wiki page has a common tagging cheat-sheet and monthly meeting information.
osm.wiki/Michigan

128061369 over 1 year ago

I realize you changed this a year ago, but just so you and I can stop flip-flopping these tags...
highway=cycleway means bicycle=designated.
highway=path is more appropriate for nearly every pedestrian way in Michigan. In fact, I am finding most of our mixed-use paths have signs and/or rules posted stating cyclists must yield the right of way. I fix these all over the place, after I've visited the trail and captured Mapillary imagery. I blame iD for suggesting cycleway, where path would be a better starting place. People walking or in wheelchairs will appreciate the routing working correctly for them.
Besides the wiki pages of those tags, see also:
osm.wiki/Michigan#Common_Tagging_Schemes

148528299 almost 2 years ago

OpenStreetMap is not a picture of the world from above, it is useful data for navigating the world which is rendered into a picture and much more.

And to those with the time to micro-map, I can think of more useful uses of that time. I also hope they plan to update their work as the truth on the ground changes. I know I don't have the time to maintain it.

osm.wiki/Good_practice

148528299 almost 2 years ago

...if again I find that it would *not be* useful...

148528299 almost 2 years ago

Including the pier addition with unrelated edits was my mistake. I have already added it back, with a few other details of the park.

You will find that nearly all of my edits are done after I have physically been to an area. I try to also capture Mapillary imagery. It seems that my camera powered down during my drive on Monday not long before I reached this area. So, now I have no proof of what I saw.

Trains are great. I like trains too. However, OpenStreetMap is a geospatial database that attempts to digitally represent _current_ realities.

When a railway is converted into something else, for instance a driveway, someone's home, a multiuse path; it is no longer a railway, abandoned or otherwise. It is now that new thing.

When an old railway is completely lost to time and can no longer be traversed on foot, of what value is to OpenStreetMap users? If anything it adds noise, implying someone might traverse its length or navigate by it, but it is gone... Its traces only visible using LIDAR or someone with a keen eye viewing a tree line in areal imagery. It is time that the former railway is moved to the Historical Map or accessed from OpenStreetMap's history.

You are welcome to put the abandoned railway back. I will get back over to that area eventually. I will then try harder to collect proof before I map what I find. And if again I find that it would be useful to have mapped what once was (as sad as it might be), I will map the area accordingly.

148528299 almost 2 years ago

Have you seen this railway?

148528724 almost 2 years ago

Nope. Thanks.

I meant to delete "railway", as it has long since been converted into a pathway.

125291659 almost 2 years ago

Found this a year later.
See the Michigan Wiki page for how we tag multi-use paths. When in doubt highway=path. Footway means foot=designated, as in, only for foot traffic. osm.wiki/Michigan#Common_Tagging_Schemes

127940842 almost 2 years ago

Found this a year later, but this was correctly tagged as highway=path
A cycleway is only for bicycles (and implies freeway like experience).
Have a look at the following pages:
* osm.wiki/Michigan#Common_Tagging_Schemes
* osm.wiki/Mountain_biking
Also see the Michigan Wikipage for information about our monthly meetings.

147313155 almost 2 years ago

After visiting it myself, I am sticking with my decision. Though, it is very close to a British pub, intended for talking and serves alcohol.

147313155 almost 2 years ago

In OpenStreetMap parlance, a bar is a noisy (audio/visual) place. For Homebrew, I am going to try leisure=amusement_arcade instead of bar. Needs a tag stating the games are analog.

My wife knows the owner and says you would you would likly enjoy this place.

https://www.homebrewgamelounge.com/

138315329 almost 2 years ago

I changed my mind. I started into moving the ways from the bicycling route to the hiking route. Following the route, I have too many questions and not enough time. For the moment, I will leave it to someone else.

138315329 almost 2 years ago

Found that these sections of path added were to the bicycling half of the Iron Belle Trail and am moving them to the hiking section now.
osm.wiki/Michigan/Iron_Belle_Trail

Also, iD suggests "cycleway" where a paved "path" would be more accurate (and more discoverable and routable by people on foot and in wheelchairs).
osm.wiki/Michigan#Pedestrian_ways

Also, as an old-skool OpenStreetMapper I am a bit of a purist. OpenStreetMap data is supposed to represent current on-the-ground realities. Having not seen the area, I am not sure if you have done this, but I would not add things which have only been planned for construction. For things that are under construction, have a look at the newer and more flexible tagging method.
osm.wiki/Michigan#Ways_Under_Construction

137167246 almost 2 years ago

The current standard for mapping a canoe/kayak/paddlecraft launch is a single point at the water's edge, preferably at the end of a trail leading to it, tagged with:
canoe=put_in;egress
Add any further descriptive tags.

For more information see:
* Michigan notes about tagging water features: osm.wiki/Michigan#Water
* Michigan water trail mapping project: osm.wiki/Michigan/Trails#Water_Trails
* Paddlecraft rendering: https://openstreetbrowser.org/#map=14/42.7385/-84.5501&basemap=osm-mapnik&categories=paddling_hazards,paddling_routes,paddling_amenities

68160542 about 2 years ago

At least now, they will not get sucked into a dam driving back there.

68160542 about 2 years ago

The highway segment is now concrete with a ford point at the creek. I figured that mapped the hazard and would render nicely. Someone with access to the site can improve it further.

changeset/145057922

68160542 about 2 years ago

waterway=weir

68160542 about 2 years ago

Is this really a dam?
https://openstreetbrowser.org/#paddling_hazards/w358563701/details&map=17/42.70048/-84.67064&basemap=osm-mapnik&categories=paddling_amenities,paddling_hazards,paddling_routes
If the water goes over. it is most likely a weir. But then, there is also a ford mapped there.
I drove over to see it for myself and found that I could not get very close.

112849871 about 2 years ago

This is tagged like a water lock, used to lift and lower boats in a waterway. I suspect you meant barrier=gate.
barrier=*