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117791476 almost 4 years ago

Okay maybe you're right in this case but all of the taggings here, even in Shenandoah National Park and Jefferson National Forest is natural=wood.
(btw the fact we have landuse=forest and natural=wood is confusing)
The thing I'm doing is to reduce the amount of landuse=forest ways if it's unnecessary, to keep the numbers down in ohsome.org's dashboard calculator, since you can generate reports such as wood area by tagging (landuse=forest and natural=wood). Before this, WV had ~16-17 thousand km2 of natural=wood, ~1,5k km2 of landuse=forest tagged ways, relations. Now this 1,5k km2 has decreased significantly to around 400-500 km2 I assume which is great (since in JOSM i have a plugin for calculating ways - measurement)

I just like matching up the tagging. In my opinion, I only tag stuff as landuse=forest if it clearly shows that it's been under forestry like forests in Alabama(however I got told from asdfjkll that they're tagging everything there as natural=wood), or I know the exact border of the forest section, for example, in Hungary it's easy because we have named mountain ranges where we also associate the forest boundary with it so that is actually aligning to the forest boundary.
However, in the US it's not the same, because most of the forests are not touched and they're in massive amounts, even if they're operated by DoA or similar authorities. As I checked all over in Virginia, natural=wood is used everywhere, so this is why I changed the tagging. I hope now this makes everything clear.
(and I remember once being told to use natural=wood but that was waaay back in 2020)

117791476 almost 4 years ago

By the way, I fixed up some multipolygon problems like overlapping or unclosed way or "area=yes" on wooded multipolygons when it's not needed.

117586807 almost 4 years ago

Please don't put landuse=forest on National forests because the wood landcover doesn't always respect the border. This is one of the rules in OSM so-to say about public lands

117587254 almost 4 years ago

that'd be 117617749 but it's good as I see

117587254 almost 4 years ago

Oh wait.. wrong changeset, since i've done other mapping since then

117587254 almost 4 years ago

I forgot to put Esri World imagery, because i had it turned off in the Layer list when mapped from NAIP. Sorry :D

117495935 almost 4 years ago

+ aligned south branch potomac river at a point, hence the size of changeset

117323230 almost 4 years ago

I also added some driveways.

117109572 almost 4 years ago

Actually the ridge is called Alleghany Mountain

116981292 almost 4 years ago

"Another thing i'd consider adding though later: inner residential/farmyard polygons where it's clearly visible that it's not a forest."
Oh, OK, I noticed that you already started. Nice. I also helped you out a bit at parts but not at the whole

116981292 almost 4 years ago

Another thing i'd consider adding though later: inner residential/farmyard polygons where it's clearly visible that it's not a forest.

116981292 almost 4 years ago

Alright, I see. Yes, I can agree on the bad alignment part. In West Virginia it's weird. In Summers County it has a bad alignment compared to NAIP, but in Mingo County it has a really good alignment. It varies a lot.

116981292 almost 4 years ago

Hey RunTrails, I want to say that Bing has way newer imagery in the area which is on the quality as Esri World Clarity(or maybe better regarding resolution), and I checked the landcover to the newest Bing 2020 imagery (according to the metadata it was taken during summer of 2020, I checked in JOSM), and there's some wood cut down since 2011(Esri World Imagery Clarity is that really old). Also, there is the lower quality NAIP from 2020 if good quality Bing imagery is not available.

If you're still working on the area, then please realign the landcover to either Bing or NAIP imagery.

Another thing, I'd recommend using JOSM for mapping forest landcover, it's usually much faster to do it.

Oh yeah, I don't know if you heard about the OSM US Slack community, but if you haven't, then please consider joining it, so if there is an issue or information, it's easier to communicate there: https://slack.openstreetmap.us/

But otherwise, you're doing an awesome work! Keep it up! Just please consider my suggestions.

116974050 almost 4 years ago

Thanks!

116974050 almost 4 years ago

Oh, I see. Thanks for it, I appreciate any help!

116978157 almost 4 years ago

I also used Mapbox imagery, i forgot to add that, but mostly I used Bing.
I forgot to add #ottwiz-mapping-wv hashtag. osm.wiki/User:Ottwiz/ottwiz-mapping-wv

116974050 almost 4 years ago

:D that was fast after you saw me mapping the landcover + landuse over there. I hope you check the buildings' shapes, because the RapiD's building recognizer isn't always accurate.

116884693 almost 4 years ago

I mean, you can upload images to imgur or any image hosting services, so that is not a big deal.

116884693 almost 4 years ago

Alright, thanks!

116884693 almost 4 years ago

Is that really Samantha Mackay Drive? because I see no information on the internet, Primary Care Plus says "124 Brookshire Lane" https://www.primarycarepluswv.com/