Hey, the roundabout you changed was actually razed in order to make it a T junction. ESRI is the most up to date imagery in NSW, so if something doesn't align to Bing, please check ESRI first to make sure it's not out of date.

Yeah probably not necessary

Not a problem. Have a happy new year!

way/372110581
way/584475117
relation/14508689

Hi Warin, why's the name of South Creek (both relation and several ways) been changed to "n"? Accidental?

Hi Warin,

I'm not really sure if this change was necessary since railway=abandoned implies razed status. I've surveyed this area and there's still some wooden sleepers, the concrete platforms still exist and the cutting is plain as day to see, so I think railway=abandoned still fits this area perfectly.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Chris.

Hi Maradona11,
Thanks for your changes to Central Station. They're greatly appreciated.

I've been working on fixing up Central the past few weeks so I hope you've found the changes satisfactory.

With your changes however I did want to point out one thing, that being the escalators from Grand Concourse (east) down to the Eddy Avenue Pedestrian Area. Following a recent survey, around the same time of yours, these escalators were still in their original position and haven't appeared to have moved or been changed as you had altered in your changeset.

I've gone ahead and rectified this, as well as a few other minor fixes and realignments in my changeset here:
changeset/129763067

Please let me know if you have any issues with any of my fixes.

Have a great day!
Chris.

Hi there, Maxar and Bing's newer imagery (around Jan 2022) are both slightly older than the newest ESRI Imagery (April 2022), which is what I used to extend that node to where it was due to the construction of the runway apron(? - not sure if this is the right term). You can check this for yourself in the ESRI Imagery layer and use the Background Panel to reference the imagery dates if you'd like, but if possible, I'd like if this change could be reverted. Thanks!

Platforms 1-12 never needed relations, and the stairways that were why the relations existed were just recently permanently closed, so they could probably be removed altogether.

16-23 have stairwells that are still in use, but they could be remapped as separate platforms split down the middle so the relations would no longer be needed.

I can take a look at doing that some other time. I just remapped nearly the entire station already over the past 2 days so I'm a bit tired of this now lol.

Hi Warin,
Thank you so much for this changeset! I was going to get to figuring out the platform relations but you saved me from that hassle. You know they're a bit of a struggle for me so I really appreciate it.
Have a fantastic day!

Hi again, I'd like to apologise if my message came across as passive aggressive, it truly wasn't my intention.

Regarding the wiki, I believe iD does recommend you check the Beginner's Guide once the tutorial is completed, but in case you missed it, here's a few helpful wiki articles that will help you get started, as well as explain some mapping practises and the general tagging guidelines for Australia as a whole.

osm.wiki/Beginners%27_guide
osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines

There's also some communities you may want to join as well where you can ask questions or advice on mapping, Discord being the most active/responsive (https://discord.gg/openstreetmap), and the forum (https://community.openstreetmap.org) or mailing list for more advanced issues.

I'm quite active in the #Oceania channel of the Discord server if you'd like to chat, ask questions or anything else. We're all very chill and don't bite!

Also, welcome to OpenStreetMap! Good luck with your mapping :)

Awesome, thanks for confirming.

Just to let you know, when you submit your changesets, there's a box underneath where you write your comment/message where you can specify what sources you used for the data you've just added/changed.

We recommend filling this out every time. Just a simple "Survey" or "Bing" will do, which helps let other mappers know that the data doesn't come from a malicious source.

Thanks again,
Chris.

Hi there, do you have a source for the name of this mock-station? Thanks.

Not really sure why the landuse "commercial area" was deleted as it does serve a purpose, could I ask your reasoning behind this? Also please remember when using imagery that certain things may be aligned to differing offsets, hence Warin's comment about the fountain. Thanks!

Hi there. Your changeset comments appear to be intentionally vague, but on behalf of the rest of the OSM community, would you please consider adding a little more detail so we can understand what's happening at a glance? Please read the following wiki entry.
osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments
Thanks!

Hi Kyle, in the #rules-and-roles channel in the server, if you scroll up to the top and read from the top-down, it explains how to join channels and get your roles, including for the #oceania group. Let me know if you have any troubles :)

Thanks for your updated to Central, this was something we were tracking/planning in the #oceania OSM Discord for a while now, so we really appreciate this. I thought i'd comment here as well to invite you to the Discord as we'd love to have you be part of our community. We're very active and are able to answer any questions or anything you may have when mapping, etc... We hope you'll consider it. https://discord.gg/openstreetmap

Fantastic! Those curves look like butter. I did want to make one note though, and it's that often TfNSW themselves add alignment of station amenities (including platforms) so I wouldn't really recommend touching their alignment unless you have a definite source that would be comparable to TfNSW's own data 👀

Hi Reiner,
Glad my response was of benefit to you.

A few things I would like to reiterate though - OpenStreetMap is a database, not a renderer. We do not map things/add data for things to be rendered for any specific renderer. Our jobs are to add as much detail as we can, wherever possible. Whether or not footway=crossing is rendered is irrelevant to the mission of OpenStreetMap.

If something exists in the real world and we can map it, we will map it.

I wanted to show you this project, it's a german micro mapping renderer that takes all its data from OpenStreetMap, and I wanted to show you this as it's what is possible when you enter such rich data like using footway=crossing.
https://strassenraumkarte.osm-berlin.org/?map=micromap#19/52.47387/13.44007

Also re: oneway=no, foot=yes, etc... even if the default value for a tag is inferred, manually specifying it means it was surveyed and adds valuable information to the OSM data set. I believe another user mentioned this in the other changeset's comments.

I'll ask @aharvey to revert your changesets as he has good experience with it as a DWG member.

Thanks again for your contributions,
Chris.

Hi again, thanks for your willingness to understand from our perspective. Regarding a few things you've said, I'll break them up a bit so it's easier for me to respond to, and maybe for you to understand or to translate should you need (depending on your English proficiency).

For sidewalks, you're correct in that footways aren't streets, they're foot *paths*. They're usually built adjacent or will always connect to a road at some end, and are only for foot traffic. You can get more specific in its design and intention when adding footway=sidewalk (refers to its intention, i.e. following the contour of the street, is usually mapped separately and often with sidewalk=* tagging on the road itself), as well as footway=crossing (the physical part of the street that the path crosses), etc...

Under your link for highway=crossing, it is true that this is for nodes specifically, but when micromapping, there is also highway=footway + footway=crossing, (footway=crossing) where you can map the span of road that is used for the pedestrian crossing and specify type (zebra, marked, unmarked, traffic_signals, etc.), and this is considered de-facto in Australia, where you tag highway=crossing on the node (intersection of the road and the footpath), and footway=crossing on the way (way intersecting the road, bounded by the kerb). Both are used in Australia in conjunction with one-another. Usually ways that are just plain highway=footway with a crossing node are seen as outdated and we generally update those with the appropriate kerb boundary, way for the section of road the crossing takes up, and the node on the intersection of the two.

Regarding the pedestrian area around Darling Harbour, I think the maxspeed was a left over from when road traffic was allowed on Pyrmont Bridge, but emergency vehicles can still use the bridge and some of the pedestrian area, so I believe that is why it was left (and think it should stay for this reason).

There's a lot of local contextual items around Sydney and Australia as a whole, so please do ask us if you have any questions or before you make any major changes in the OSM Discord server (https://discord.gg/openstreetmap) under #oceania, or the Oceania mailing list. We'd be more than happy to help you.

If you'd like to go ahead with reverting the two offending changesets, I'd also be more than happy to help you re-add any of your correct changes or fix things up that may get mixed up in the edit.

Thanks,
Chris.