Hi Jazz, I'm partially reverting this changeset, specifically the `incline` tags. `yes` is not a correct value for the `incline` tag, please see the wiki page here: incline=*

Hi there Jazz,
Thanks for contributing to OSM. I've taken the liberty to fix some of the mapping here. Both indoor mapping and multi-level mapping are quite advanced mapping topics so I would suggest you try to avoid them until you have more experience with OSM.

With the multi story mapping, the tag you was mostly missing is `level`. the downstairs area should have `level=0`. upstairs, `level=1`. Unfortunately ID, the OSM online editor, doesn't seem to support the level tag and doesn't allow you to filter by level like other editors which would make things a lot harder.

One other thing I wish to mention is to please avoid inventing paths. when mapping in the UK specifically, pedestrians are allows on all types of highway by default. so in situations where there is no separate path and the path simply ends are a road way then it should be connected to the road way directly. This allows the routers to direct pedestrians along the road way instead of them trying to find a separate path that doesn't exist.

One last thing I feel I should mention about mapping separate sidewalks as I seen you've done a few. Mapping sidewalks using separate ways instead of using the `sidewalk` tags is a very controversial and debated topic. What you've done is not wrong but some people wont agree with it. I tend to use separate sidewalks sparingly, usually where the sidewalks become complex like at a intersections for example.

Please feel free to ask questions you may have. I'm also active on the forums and on the osm discord. there are quite a few of us welshies on the discord so you'll be more than welcome. there also dedicate channels on there for people looking for mapping help which may be of use to you. I hope i havent scared you away with this mile long comment :)

Kind regards,
Kits

Hello Road Warrior, Can you please state your source for your recent changes? who are these users making these reports? what street views are you using?

Hi there Gary,
It doesn't appear to be widespread, affecting only affecting a couple of areas in this grid. honestly no idea why this happen. I've now delete them. Thanks for point this out.

Hi there.
Sorry to say but that's not correct. both names should be on all of the ways. since the Welsh name is dominant, it should go in "name" tag and the English name should go in the "name:en" tag. its up to the renderer which name gets displayed. for example, on this map it only shows English names when available.
https://openmaptiles.org/languages/en/#17.77/51.584364/-3.216985
I've now reverted it to its original name.
If you have any additional questions I would recommend asking on the forums or the discord. I'm active on both.
Kind regards,
Kits.

Hi there Storgar,
Why have you deleted the welsh name on this one section of this street?

Hello Turtlehats,
thanks for your contribution. Unfortunately I had to revert your changes. I'm not exactly sure what you were trying to map but you created a path on top of a already mapped track and moved a node incorrectly on joseph parry way.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask. The forum is also a good place to go if you need any advice.

Kind regards,
Kits.

Hi there Zen,
Thanks for updating the these businesses. I never got around to doing so after remapping this area. I did a video survey back in July which may be of use to you if you wish to add the rest. it is available here on mapillary: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=732778959490857

Kind regards,
Kits

Hi there, what is your source for this speed limit? from memory I believe this lane is only a 30.

Hi, Thanks for reply.

There are what I would describe as cycle barriers on either end of the path. That is two fences that overlap but with a large gap for a person to pass. I would interpret the barriers as discouraging the path but not blocking it. I've readded the path since it is still well formed and not blocked on either side along with my most recent update.

I did consider adding access=discouraged but since there is only "cycle barriers" and no formal signage to discouraging it I've left the access tag it out but I've mapped it as a path with a higher sac_scale value to contrast the main paths which I've mapped as footpaths and a 0 sac_scale value for the most part.

I didn't notice a sign but i will admit i wasnt looking for one. i also encounted a closed path with a diversion near the south. i've just added it but i didnt put down a gps marker for it and cant 100% remember where it is so i've made a rough guess on its location. i do plan to go back up there to explore more so i'll fix it in the future

hi there rimeraz, why have you marked this path with access=no? coincidentally I just walked this path only a matter of hours ago.

No no, you've done nothing wrong. the NGED project stretches to the east coast and down to Cornwall as well. i'm just focusing on Wales to start with but this last grid has proven to me this process is still too manual and I need to automate it more. I will break them down into quarters too so I commit 4 times as often which should stop as many conflicts and having to ask people not to commit like this.

At the moment these grids take a couple of weeks of heavy work so not only is it slow I also burn out after doing one. rural ones are not as bad but as density rises so does the workload.

I'm pushing hard to get this one done now since i started it after that i'll take a break to investigate more automation.

This is the 2nd time i've asked this of you, i do apologize, this grid has taken me longer than I expected. going forward i intent to split the grids up into quarters so i don't go as long without committing a changeset and risking conflicts as i am now.

Hi there Groove,
Just a heads up, i'm currently importing power infrastructure for in this area as part of osm.wiki/NGED_Import_Project. The current area i'm working is a box extending roughly from aberdare to the north of cardiff. If i could ask you to avoid that area until i've i've committed to avoid conflicts, thanks.

Also i would strongly recommend against mapping power cables as individual ways as it will result in a excessive spam of ways, particularly in areas around primary substations where you can have 15+ cables on top of each other. instead you can group them together using the circuits tag and a circuit relation to map the part of the individual lines.

Hello Phillip,
Could I kindly ask you to be a bit more cautious when adding UPRNs? I’ve just come across a couple of areas of grass where UPRNs have been added, which doesn’t quite seem to make sense. In one case, for example, the UPRN appears to correspond to a bus stop shelter rather than the entire grassy area:
way/255371122

There’s no issue with adding UPRNs when the centroid clearly lines up with a building like a house but adding them in places like this doesn't make sense. It would be great to avoid guesswork where possible.

Thanks for your contributions!

"Why should the OSM community decisions override those of the communities who build these trails" -

Because the map doesn't belong to you. OpenStreetMap is not a private registry for land managers or trail builders to curate what they think the public should or shouldn’t see. It’s a global, open, factual map of what exists on the ground. The job of OSM is not to enforce your access policies or preserve your status quo—it’s to reflect observable reality, transparently and accurately.

No one is denying the effort local communities put into trail building or land stewardship. But that doesn’t give you veto power over what gets mapped. If a trail is visible, verifiable, and walkable, then it belongs on the map—with appropriate tags like informal=yes, access=private, or hazard=yes. That’s how responsible mapping works.

Pretending something doesn’t exist by keeping it off the map doesn’t make it safer, doesn’t reduce usage, and doesn’t protect your community. It just makes users less informed. And that’s the real danger.

This is the last comment i'm gonna make in this thread as it is not the place for such a discussion. if you are serious about this then please start a discussion on https://community.openstreetmap.org/ and convince the community of your argument.

Kind regards,
Kits

Your argument a frankly ridiculous. as the wiki page states, OSM is a database so the trail exists then it should be mapped, full stop. there are various access and difficulty tags applied on top to restrict or discourage or inform use which appears to have all ready been partly done already in this case with the addition of `access=discouraged informal=yes`.

"OSM Policy" as you called it is not a arbitrary decision made by some anonymous exec at a company. these are standards which the community as a whole have decided on. going against them like this is going against all of us and the way you talking about it is frankly insulting. This could have been handled a 100% better by taking it to the forums for so the community may have discussed it. resorting to a revert war is just pathetic and a waste of people's time.

I see you main account has now been banned. Please be better in future if you still which to be part of this community.

Ignore my previous comment. for some reason I thought you added the tag not removed. :/

Hi Richard, just in response to your note, this is common for NCN routes. My local route 46 also has few missing chunks. The routes are usually built in small chunks that get connected up over time.

Hello GrooveBox, I'm currently importing all power lines in this area as part of the osm.wiki/NGED_Import_Project
Please forgive me for being rude but could I ask you to postpone adding any more power line in this area for about a week until I finish this area as any changes require me to merge with my work in progress. The area I'm working on extends from Llanhilleth to Abergavenny.
Thanks