Thats a fair argument, i've gone through some recent historic satellite imagery now and i agree, a lot of what i just walked on is less then 10 years old so this makes more sense.

It does seem like a rather large oversight that they didn't build anything to span that gap when rebuilding the a465.

So I walked the stretch between Garnlydan and Brynmawr today and its odd. There are signs on nearly all the minor forks on the path but the signs are missing for all the major forks. there's even no signage at the east end nor at the ramp from the B4560 where I entered the path.

There is also a information board near the A465 highest viewpoint which has a simple map on it show amoung other things, NCN paths, it seems to show the south path of the 46 along with the 466 but not the north path.

The sign post at the viewpoint also marked as west from the viewpoint as a "local cycle route" and east as part of the "Ebbw Fach Trail" but no mention of the NCN route.

I think my original theory still stands and the north route was meant to be removed but they skipped the majority of the harder to get to signs. it also terminates literally in a garage's storage yard and doesnt really go anywhere. however since we map what's on the ground if you have no objections i'll remap it as a separate link route rather than a alt path of the main route. I think this makes more sense since it a dead end and I suspect they will remove it eventually.

I'll also look into this Ebbw Fach Trail since its seem rather extensive and well marked. the map indicates that it extends all the way down to Aberbeeg.

Hi Ceirios, You may have made a row of street lamps instead of bollards here: node/12427193541

I agree, i've created a thread here
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/residential-road-with-separated-lanes

I will admit I only surveyed the entrances to the path as I was on a motorbike at the time. Had a nose at OS maps, they have it marked as a link route rather than a full one. Next dry day we have i'll take a walk up there with the dog to make sure.

Hi there, i surveyed the cycle paths here before making the changeset on request of SomeoneElse. I could not find any signage for the north stretch when I surveyed it with the only exception being on this roundabout which I've concluded is prob a leftover sign. way/4570064

You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I am forcing my standard on this area because 80%+ of the mapping in a 2-3 miles radius around this changeset is my work so my work forms the standard of this area and I will admit I'm rather protective of it. Please understand from my prospective how rude and insulting it is to have someone come in, delete your work with no real explanation let alone a conversation. I brought up this dual carriageway in the discord, most people agree with my argument of why it should be like this. however Trigpoint has raised an counter argument which I have agreed with, being the inability to perform U-turns on this stretch. This is the kind of conversation / debate I would expect which you do not attempt, instead you invade a area, declare you know best and move on. I will apologize for the blanket reverts I've performed. My only excuse was tiredness. I stand that reverts were necessary but it should have been cherry picked. I still stand that what you have been doing in general recently is borderline vandalism. this changeset is more debatable but others are just downright wrong, you delete with no concern for the detail you throw away and I'm hoping going forward you will be more aware of your actions.

I'm reverting this. Please go and discuss stuff like this before making drastic changes. You cant just stroll into an area and force your standards upon everyone else. This is getting silly. if you haven't noticed I've micro mapped this entire town in high detail. There are 4 islands on this road, it is acceptable to map a island are a duel carriageway. Instead of having it merge and split 4 times I kept it as one chunk of duel carriageway which I think is an acceptable compromise between accuracy and practicality. What you've been doing lately is borderline vandalism, please stop it.

changeset/160265511

*guy who imported power lines in this area. XD I do check each line as I import them but when you got thousands of poles to do you cant spend too much time on each so they are meant to be rough and people can improve the accuracy later.

I have started a thread of the forums to discuss this issue more publicly https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/roundabout-speed-limits

Nathan can you point be to the public discussion you had before deciding to make these blanket decisions? personally, I see no benefit to declaring a roundabout to be separate from the road it sits on. it would be suicidal to attempt a roundabout at 60 or 70 mph. and there no official consensus since presumably it is common sense to say a roundabout adopts the speed limit of the road it sits on. the only difference is that the speed limit data becomes noisier and less appealing to consumers.

Hi there, you appear to have incorrectly moved this power pole node/12148557486
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Multiple junctions have had detail deleted here for no reason. the worst example us probably way/24384371
here you deleted 2 carriageways and 3 islands and replaced them with a single node. there is no reason to delete detail like this. there is no benefit. it is less accurate than before.

ah you're refering to Crumlin, i agree with your change in Crumlin it is fine. I was refering to the few junctions you've deleted similar to this one around the A4119. some I agree they didn't represent the junction accurately but others, there was nothing wrong with them, they're only crime was not matching your standard. this is out of context so i'll make another comment on that changeset

No matter where you stand on a roundabout there is always a carriage way heading in the opposite way to your right with a physical barrier separating you so a roundabout fits the definition of a duel carriageway better than a single carriageway with exception of mini roundabouts which i would except are single carriage ways and any road that forms a loop could be considered a so called circular carriageway. So is the M60 a single carriageway by your rules? It also make more common and practical sense. if you set every roundabout to 60 a satnav may start informing a driver that the speed limit has changed every time they end and leave a roundabout which is silly.

If your refer to the one my Llantrisant then I need to double check it but they have be constructing a duel carriage way in that area. It may not be on imergry yet

simply tagging a node is meant to be a faster simpler less detailed method. You should always strive for greater detail on osm as time allows, this is what it means to micromap. you should not go around deleting high detail mapping just because it does not fit your lower standard. this is a smaller example but some of changes you've made to junctions in some of your recent changesets is rather worrysome. please also remember everything you are delete, someone spent time creating.

the definition of a tertiary is "Smaller through roads linking cities, towns or villages, or linking suburbs within built up areas". this is the primary road connecting Trefil to Tredegar and the rest of the road network

Hi there Nathan,
I've noticed you just a few change sets recently altering junctions like this and I don't feel like there is a justification for simplifying junctions like this. it seems like you simply deleting detail for no benefit.

this is incorrect. the road between tredegar and trefil should be tertiary not unclassified
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