Are you sure? Afaik it's only "Robert Black General Out-patient Clinic" that's renamed to "San Po Kong Robert Black Family Medicine Clinic", with no name changes to Robert Black Health Centre (which contains more than just the family medicine clinic).

Is node/12772775735 really a `=suburb`?

It makes sense for local texts like signage at site to omit location prefixes/suffixes as it can be implied from context (e.g. in Hong Kong "CU" can be taken to mean "CUHK"), so it's not completely indicative of its actual name.

The government websites include "Yau Ma Tei" https://www.info.gov.hk/tb_chest/tb-chi/contents/c614_1July2007.htm https://www.dh.gov.hk/english/tele/tele_chc/tele_chc_shcf.html https://www.dh.gov.hk/english/tele/tele_chc/tele_chc_shcm.html

Re node/13307948976 node/13307948977 node/13307948978 , is that actually their name? E.g. no "Yau Ma Tei" in front?

Are you sure? There's already `trail_visibility=no`.

"That's the standard" doesn't justify anything.

Hypothetically if the arc between the concerned segments doesn't exist, then the concerned segments are obviously part of the ending road and will get the same classification. Adding back that arc only increases the concerned segment's importance by making it facilitate more traffic, and it doesn't make sense increasing its importance will demote it. Just because the roads are aligned in a circle doesn't mean they all have the same importance.

2. Why? Traffic to/from the ending road must use the part of the arc immediately before/after, so in terms of functionality they are an extension of the ending road.

Hi there, do you know if this changeset resolves note/4015896 and note/4015897 ?

Why should the name contain "(興建中) (under construction)" when there's already `landuse=construction`?

If you think Kam Ho Road between Tung Wui Road and Pat Heung Road deserves `highway=secondary`, then definitely so does Tung Wui Road.

That person seems to be a protecthknames-sockpuppet. I think it should be fine to change his edits to `old_name` for now.

Hi there, what is node/4847959953 and why is it in the middle of the road? Or is it simply an editing mistake?

> See "Big Three of Shatin" (Tai Wai, Sha Tin and Fo Tan) all only has `highway=tertiary` to connect to them.

Which roads specifically are you talking about?

> CPR (Ko Po - Ngau Tam Mei) tends to use Yuen Long Station instead. (See KMB 76K, and the many minibus routes.)

I think public transport go to Yuen Long only because it's a major town whereas KSR station is basically in the middle of nowhere. As for private cars, Yuen Long does not have park and ride facilities, does it? And even if it does, it would probably still be less attractive due to the congestion in Yuen Long and the higher parking fees from a busier location.

And even if CPR does indeed prefer Yuen Long, Kam Tin and Pat Heung still have enough population to justify a `=secondary`. Pat Heung Road doesn't serve CPR nor Kam TIn (due to the Kam Tin ramp on Route 3), but it's still `=secondary`.

> Northern Link (construction is starting) is reducing importance of KSR station in terms of actual passenger in-out count via KSR station; would go in/out at Northern Link stations instead.

I don't understand this sentence at all. How does Northern Link (transfer passengers) affect in-out count? The only station whose in-out count might be affected would probably be Yuen Long due to the B1, 64K, etc. Or are you saying that fewer people would drive from CPR to KSR because they could have taken the train instead? But didn't you just say that CPR is going to Yuen Long?

> afaik in rural context, `highway=secondary` must have some sort of cross-district capability (e.g. Kam Tin Road, etc.). I don't see Kam Ho Road has this.

Given the PTI and park & ride at KSR, it's pretty clear that cross-modal transfer is encouraged and/or popular. Then, the West Rail can simply be seen as an alternative to Route 3, being cross-district. When Tung Wui Road and Kam Ho Road are the only ways to access KSR Station, they can be seen as an extension of the West Rail, which is cross-district, making Tung Wui Road and Kam Ho Roads themselves cross-district. This is practically quite similar to the "no change in highway classification without junction" rule: when you consider the rather remote location of KSR station, most people (except perhaps the residents of the new developments) using it are probably continuing their journey (using Tung Wui or Kam Ho roads) anyway, so the cross-districtness of the West Rail can be inherited to the roads.

Why would you do this when node/13167199104 exists?

> Actually, upon further review, it turns out Kam Ho Road also has share_taxi=no.

But that only means Kam Ho Road and Tung Wui Road should get the same classification, and does not imply anything about what the classification is, right? After all, the whole point of this discussion initially was to decide whether Tung Wui Road is `=secondary` or `=tertiary`.

Imho just the fact that Kam Ho Road and Tung Wui Road provides access to Kam Sheung Road Station should be enough to justify `=secondary`. KSR station (alongside with the bus terminus and park & ride) basically gives indirect railway access to the entire Kam Tin/Pat Heung plain, and perhaps the villages along CPR-Tam Mi too. It's similar to how Pat Heung Road gets `=secondary`, presumably due to the connection with Tai Lam Tunnel.

See changeset/173042199

Hi there, the Kam Ho Road widening is largely complete, so you might be interested in revisiting this.

Note: I am aware that this changeset broke multiple bus relations. This will be fixed soon in the part 2 changeset, which I expect to upload no later than tomorrow noon. Other mappers can also fix it before I do should they want to.

Sorry if my initial comment is not clear enough. My concern is that the quoted relation only has a "via" node with no "to" and "from", so it's incomprehensible.

I suppose you mean that the RCP can be accessed by turning right from the entrance, and that's the only legally allowed turn from way/1410120494 ? In that case, how about mapping the "back door" with `access=private` way and `barrier=gate` node and map the way as the "to" of the turn restriction?

See changeset/172855842