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151308070 over 1 year ago

Hi again :) Does the access road around the west side of Bigforth Barn still exist, even as private access only? If so, it should be drawn on the map and tagged as access=private. If not, someone’s going to eventually re-add it (from aerial imagery) but without appropriate access tagging.

There’s some explanation of the reasoning for this policy (albeit applied to private land rather than just private works access) here: osm.wiki/Why_we_won%27t_delete_roads_on_private_property

151133532 over 1 year ago

Good to know, thanks. Looking at Mazemap, it does look like additional details added through StreetComplete will feed into it, if someone finds a spare half hour to play around with it. :)

Thanks again for clarifying things for me. I’ve updated the map slightly to point to this conversation as a source for the names on those roads, to reduce the risk that someone removes them in future (until the signs are installed on the ground). Ta

151133532 over 1 year ago

Hiya, thanks for your interesting reply. If I understand you correctly, the uni is deciding to name these roads now — rather than you adding already-existing names which were missing on the map?

Are there plans to install physical road signs on these two roads, with the names? It’ll help with people’s navigation, and also reduce the chance that someone removes the names in the future as unverifiable (see osm.wiki/Good_practice#Verifiability). It’s unlikely that would happen, but possible.

Can I ask what the university’s policy or use of OpenStreetMap is? Does it feed into official maps, or something like that? I’ve seen various edits from different members of the facilities department over the past couple of years. It’s great to see, but it’s left me a little curious as to what the bigger picture is :)

If OSM is something which is feeding into official uni maps or navigation, can I suggest you take a look at using StreetComplete (https://streetcomplete.app/) to fill in some detail on the map? It helps improve the map for accessible access, pedestrians and cyclists in particular.

Ta :)

151133532 over 1 year ago

Reverted as changeset/151258389 due to no response

151116605 over 1 year ago

No worries. What in particular do you want to learn? Message me (osm.org/message/new/gurglypipe) and I’ll be happy to provide pointers

151133532 over 1 year ago

Hiya, welcome to OpenStreetMap!

Are you sure those road names are signed as such on the ground? I’ve surveyed round there several times and have never seen a road name sign for either of them.

151173540 over 1 year ago

I’ve made those changes as changeset/151174639

151173540 over 1 year ago

Hi, if deleting shops or amenities, please don’t fully delete the node. Doing so loses the address data, which will be useful if the shop reopens as something else. Instead, please add a lifecycle prefix (osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix) to the shop= or amenity= tag and change name= to osm.wiki/Tag:old_name=.

e.g. disused:amenity=clinic old_name=Bio Med Clinic

Thanks

151142655 over 1 year ago

Why?

150759875 over 1 year ago

I’ve changed the tagging to use seamark:buoy_special_purpose in changeset/151002568, please say if that’s not correct. Thanks

150711518 over 1 year ago

Cheers. I’ve moved the names off the buildings and into addr:street tagging, then, as that’s the convention for these things.

I’ve also added the railing, hopefully in the right place.

Thanks again for your help, please do keep editing and adding local detail as you see it :)

150759875 over 1 year ago

Hiya, thanks for contributing to OpenStreetMap. Are these racing markers permanent, or are they for a specific event?

If they’re permanent, are they buoys? If so they may be better off tagged as seamark:buoy_special_purpose:category=racing (see seamark:buoy_special_purpose:category=racing and related pages). The tagging scheme is a little complex, so I can help change the tagging if you wish.

If they’re not permanent, or are not physically marked, they probably don’t belong in OpenStreetMap — see osm.wiki/Verifiability

Thanks :)

150711518 over 1 year ago

That’s great, thanks very much for your detailed answer and follow-up edits. They should help improve the map’s accuracy for everyone.

I’ve made a few follow-up edits to tweak the tagging to conform to various conventions. Please let me know if anything there is wrong.

One more question: is Esme Gardens the name of a road, or the name of a house? It’s set as the name of way/69180818 and way/560751505 (and the adjacent building), which seems a little odd. Typically either a road is named or a building is named, but not usually both the same.

Thanks :)

150753163 over 1 year ago

Looking good! One question — should way/1278802007 be waterway=drain or waterway=ditch? As I understand the tagging scheme, the former implies a bigger construction which I’d associate with urban drainage. The latter is what I believe is typically used for field drains. There are, however, examples where waterway=drain is appropriate for field drainage (e.g. in the Lyth valley), hence my question.

waterway=drain
waterway=ditch

Hope you’re enjoying the sun! :)

150711518 over 1 year ago

And is there no way through (even on foot or for customers) from Bank Street to Esme Gardens? Has something been built in the way?

You’ve renamed the access road as ‘Heather Garth’, but that’s the name of only one of the guest houses. Is that actually the road name?

Thanks

150711518 over 1 year ago

Hiya, what’s this area (way/988569106) used for now, if not customer parking? Ta

150657185 over 1 year ago

Hiya, does the camping barn no longer exist? It’s still listed on the YHA website: https://www.yha.org.uk/hostel/yha-ennerdale

150428441 over 1 year ago

I’ve re-added the path and leat in changeset/150533397.

Also, Halesowen golf course was already mapped, so I’ve removed the duplicate one in changeset/150533167.

If any of that is incorrect, please get in touch, thanks.

150506117 over 1 year ago

Hiya, what’s your source for this name? It seems an unlikely name for a track. It’s on OS OpenData StreetView and the survey of place names (https://epns.nottingham.ac.uk/browse/id/53287687b47fc40c6f0000b4-Great+Kettle) and both suggest it’s a hollow, perhaps a bit further to the east around the 200m contour mark on Asby Gill?

150312223 over 1 year ago

Thanks!

For anyone reading this in future, it was fixed in changeset/150449552