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146136017 almost 2 years ago

Hi, did you survey this in person? When I was there a couple of months ago, this path was definitely one-way, and definitely for customers only (you have to buy a ticket).

145960744 almost 2 years ago

(Apologies for the aggressive tone of my first message, I should have been more polite. It is frustrating to see my work deleted for seemingly no good reason, though.)

145960744 almost 2 years ago

Right, that makes sense, thanks.

As well as deleting the trees, though, you also deleted the piece of grass around them which was already mapped, and then replaced it with something much more coarsely detailed.

Firstly, this loses history of others’ contributions to the map (osm.wiki/Keep_the_history), and secondly it’s losing geometric detail.

If the deletion was accidental, note that the map editor has an undo button to allow you to undo mistakes while editing.

145997692 almost 2 years ago

Done in changeset/146000715

145997692 almost 2 years ago

I trust your on-the-ground survey, and value that you’ve taken the time to explain fully why you’re deleting the track, I think that makes sense. My point is that it because it’s still shown in the imagery (regardless of how old that imagery is), an armchair mapper may re-add the track, and all the context of your survey would not be re-added.

I’ll undo your edit and tag the track as abandoned (which is stronger than disused; see osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix#Stages_of_decay). It then won’t show up on the map, but will show up in the editor.

Thanks for your work to improve the map :D

145997692 almost 2 years ago

It exists on the aerial imagery, so perhaps it would be better to retag the track rather than deleting it. Otherwise a well-meaning mapper (who has not surveyed on the ground) may re-add it from aerial imagery in future.

I suggest tagging as access=private or disused:highway=track depending on whether the track completely doesn’t exist on the ground (even if you had a key for the gates, say).

145960744 almost 2 years ago

How on earth is this piece of grass (way/1237546078) more ‘detailed’ than what was already mapped there, which you deleted? What are you trying to achieve?

145853161 almost 2 years ago

OK, I’ve changed it back to fee=yes in changeset/145873725. Thanks for your fast response :)

145853161 almost 2 years ago

Hiya, is the National Trust car park at Blea Tarn definitely free to everyone? That seems unlikely to me (it’s a popular area and National Trust car parks are rarely free to the public). Thanks.

145660007 almost 2 years ago

Hi, thanks for your attention to detail on the Dales Way. I see you’ve added name=Dales Way to all the path segments on the route. This is not correct: the name is already tagged on them via a route relation, and that’s the correct way to tag these things.

Otherwise, what happens if one of the footpaths is part of the Dales Way and the Dales High Way, or some other long-distance path? What should it be called? :)

I’ve removed the name in changeset/145723348

145594115 almost 2 years ago

Did you align the aerial imagery with the Cadastral Parcels before realigning all these buildings? The Bing aerial imagery is not guaranteed to be aligned to ground truth, and its alignment varies across the country, so it needs to be aligned to the OSMUK Cadastral Parcels layer (which is a source of ground truth) before drawing anything. Especially before realigning lots of buildings.

145534766 about 2 years ago

Why put the housenumbers in brackets?

145338818 about 2 years ago

OK, I’ve tweaked it in changeset/145416379 — let me know if that’s not correct! Ta :)

145338818 about 2 years ago

Heya, just checking: are the stile and gate at node/11435335973 one after another on the track, or next to each other? One after another seems a bit unlikely, and I’m wondering if it’s Every Door being unhelpful again. :)

145299846 about 2 years ago

Why are you turning areas into multipolygons? It loses history and makes it quite a bit harder to edit them in future. I don’t see any benefits.

145191235 about 2 years ago

Hiya. Thanks for explaining: I see your reasoning. I think in this case the problem probably lies with the app you’re using. You should get in touch with its authors and point them at osm.wiki/Access_provisions_in_the_United_Kingdom so they can make sure their app parses those tags correctly.

Access tagging is a complex topic (because access law in the UK is frustratingly complex), and lots of people get it wrong, so don’t worry about it. For future edits, the wiki is a good place to check if you’re not sure about the precise meanings of OSM tags. :) Or just feel free to message me if you want a second opinion on something, I’m happy to help.

Thanks for taking the time to try and fix the situation here, and happy editing in future! :)

145191235 about 2 years ago

Hi, what were you trying to achieve with this edit?

The access tagging on these paths was already correct as per the tagging guidelines (osm.wiki/Access_provisions_in_the_United_Kingdom) and the definitive map of rights of way in the area. I have reverted your changes because of this (changeset/145231849).

145029430 about 2 years ago

Ta

145029430 about 2 years ago

Hi, there now appear to be a number of ways in this changeset which don’t include the place they’re in in their address tagging at all.

For example, way/398407870 is bang in the middle of Slaidburn, but its address tagging doesn’t mention Slaidburn at all. If you were just looking at the tagging, you’d think it’s in Clitheroe, 10 miles away.

What’s the fix for that, because that can’t be right?

144876634 about 2 years ago

That looks good to me now, thanks