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150601541 over 1 year ago

Hola.
Este camino se ve claramente en el satelite y aunque no clasifica como residencial (es un track, con suerte un service dependiendo de en qué termina)
Pero la duda es porqué se borró? se trata de un error?
Es normal errores de este tipo entre quienes comienzan, no pasa nada. Es solo para saber.
Se recupera fácil.
saludos

150601275 over 1 year ago

Hola Rodrigo, buenos días.
Una duda: los callejones tienen esos "dos" nombres? si es así está ok, pero si se llamaban de una manera y ahora de otra, entonces dejar el antiguo como old_name=

saludos

150543986 over 1 year ago

Hola Nicolás
Por favor no usar nombres genéricos (cancha de...)
Otro tema: por un pedestrian pueden eventualmente entrar vehículos con permiso. Para que tengas eso en cuenta cuando cambies de footway a pedestrian.

saludos

150498588 over 1 year ago

Ahí lo arreglé un poco. saludos

150498588 over 1 year ago

Hola. Dibujamos estructura por estructura, aunque estén pegadas. No hacemos un polígono por toda la manzana.
Ademés, el tag building es para la estructura misma, no para el recinto completo.

150316868 over 1 year ago

I asked you if you did, not asked you to do, big difference.
And I just told you how the Canadian example is out of context and wrongly mapped. Please continue the discussion in the mailing list thread, where I can see you were refuted.
Please stop sending me messages.

150316868 over 1 year ago

not even going to waste time reaching for the others.

150316868 over 1 year ago

Dude, the example in Canada is a 269 village totally connected to the rest of the country with a primary that turns into a secondary in the middle of nowhere with no apparent reason.
You are not even aware of the main issue here.
Any experimented mapper would see the mistake here and how this is totally unrelated to the topic being discussed.

regards

150316868 over 1 year ago

Hello @ftrebien
In the first paragraph of the mailing you wrote to open the discussion (today) you talk about “I”, and basically confessed that you discussed this with nobody (For a while, I tried to come up with a balanced generic scheme based on the regional importance of these roads,[2] which has been questioned,[3] so I would like to hear opinions on the matter.)
This is just you making editions given your personal opinions.

You just said it. Don´t invoke local communities. Be honest please.

Even the wiki you cite is partially written by yourself. We checked the versions.
And if there is a local community: are they really local? Do they have a mandatory saying over the wiki? Where do they live? Do the Chilean mappers have a say in this? Did you discuss with the Chinese and Uruguayans? But when the actual mappers that did this are mappers you can contact, then you switch to “this is international” and post a mailing list asking for opinions, while dismissing the wiki. Sorry, but this is a blatant contradiction.

Is the wiki not international? Or is this just another “We are special, we don´t want to follow the rules”?
So, you change versions while running from your debunked examples. When it fits it's international, when it doesn´t it is local. (and then you change the wiki).

Sadly, I think you don´t understand the classification system at all, invoking high traffic and thinking the classification system lies upon what you think is important is just not understanding it.
Regards and sorry if I am not going back on this, but IMO this is another "I own the place" mapper that writes his own wiki and then invoke a one-man local community rights while not contacting the very same people that draw the roads in the first place.

not ok.

150316868 over 1 year ago

The eastern part, which starts as primary (wrongly), then leaves town as a tertiary just to head to a radar and the OREO Doomsday Vault.
That is wrong too.

150316868 over 1 year ago

And even the Svalbard example that you are citing, they are using a secondary (wrongly) to join two sectors of the same urban settlement. But as soon as the roads leave the Village they become unclassified roads.
And as soon as the road becomes a smaller road to reach the antennas, Here you don´t have an urban sector, just camps.
regards

150316868 over 1 year ago

@ftrebien
Hello.
It is very common to find such misconceptions in Europe too. And it is sadly becoming very frequent that local communities agreeing in just ignoring the wiki and take into consideration only what they want in order to make OSM look how they want to.
You just picked up one island of thousands the fit your criteria and went on with that. How about a complete survey?
On the wiki segment you are citing as an argument, after being totally dismantled and proved out of context, you are just holding on to just one line, and taking it out of context again.
You talk about a community but let´s dig into that. The whole sector you are claiming to map under a community agreement was made entirely by members of the Chilean community (take a look into the history of each and every road please). Those categories went on for years even under your own mapping activity, which included several names that you removed after some months.
Did you contact the community? No. So is there another community? Because it doesn´t seems so. And if it does, they are adding motorcar roads to a system that connects some camps.
It is clear to me that you are stuck on that sector moving things over and over again and never discussed with nobody. Not that it is wrong to map only one sector, but please take a deep look into correct mapping.
We had to correct an unclassified road into Mount Vinson from you.
Then again, please join the Chilean community. There, around 200 mappers share doubts every day.

regards

150316868 over 1 year ago

On a side note: in Antarctica happens what we, in Chile, have in Easter Island or Torres del Paine, which are the most touristic places in the countriy that receives people from all the planet and on season we experiment dozens of mappers, from different communities, editing very useful information, but with a very wide set of interpretations of the Wiki.

You are welcome to Join the Chilean Community in Telegram (https://t.me/OSMcl). There we discuss the wiki almost on a daily basis and we have been discussing categorizations along with all other south American communities.

150316868 over 1 year ago

Hello @ftrebien
The link you are citing is out of context. And having studied some of your previous editions, I would kindly ask you to be open to suggestions, because you have some concepts mixed. (changeset/133341838, sorry, but that is not an unclassified road).
The classifications in OSM are, with the exception of motorways, a matter of the purpose that the road serves in a given reasonable big network. But that doesn´t mean that, given a reduced place (a small island) all the categories immediately go up one or two steps.
So, the examples that this paragraph gives, are the trans-Amazonian Road, which, despite its quality, connects big cities, some of them with millions of inhabitants.
Both Russian examples are roads that connect big cities in the far east.
The Madagascar example refers to a road that connects dozens of towns in the northern part of the country. And serves a wider network.
The Sudan example is one of the most important roads in the country, despite its quality.
King George's island reportedly has maybe a hundred inhabitants. spread in several settlements. There are mines on this planet with more inhabitants.
So, we will all understand that mapping the roads that connect them as tracks or even paths is wrong because they serve a purpose in this very little network. But secondary is a huge overrepresentation. Tertiary is, maybe, an appropriate category. Some will say unclassified. Take into consideration that secondary implies motorcar=yes.
Sorry for the long response, my only intention is to help, and the time will come when a combined effort will have to be made in Antarctica because some other editions here are just wrong (not by you).

150074073 over 1 year ago

Don´t worry. Happy to help.

regards

150368788 over 1 year ago

Hola Luis
En Josm puedes seleccionar un lote de vías y con la letra Q cuadrarlas.
Dejaste la faena que dibujaste con varios caminos muy chuecos.

Saludos

150310874 over 1 year ago

Hola Cristóbal.
Gracias por tus ediciones
Sin embargo, veo que agregaste una ciclovía que ya estaba.
Al estár pegada a la calle, se mapea incorporada a la calle y no por separado.
No es grave y yo lo corrijo. Por favor sigue aportando con lo que conoces de los barrios donde vives. Gracias!!

150135158 over 1 year ago

Dejó todo chueco además.
no tenemos problemas con enseñarle todo lo que sepa, pero por favor ir más lento.
gracias

150135158 over 1 year ago

Hola. por favor no mover las calles de acuerdo a la imagen satelital. Esas imagenes que estpa viendo son uno de varios proveedores que hay de fotos y todos tienen sus desviaciones.

Gracias

150093243 over 1 year ago

Hola. Por favor no mapear prohibiciones de viraje en U en las calles en si misma. No tiene sentido. Está advertido esto en la wiki y los ruteadores lo hacen por programación interna.
gracias