Les 3 points d'intérêt à Lonjamuzi, pas avenue de la Victoire.

Thanks for the answer, and happy mapping ;)

Dear darkemyst,

Thank you for your mapping efforts in the city of Denver.

You are getting some questions from user jjyach, who is worried about the tagging of some cycle and foot paths in the area of Denver.

Please, kindly answer these questions to give some feedback to the community about your edits.

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023102410000339]

Dear MenKauRa,

Old names don't have to be deleted. We have a good naming system that allows keeping old names in the database. We have old_name=* tag and name:az, name:hy, name:ru for different languages.

Please, stick to the reality on the ground while you make changes. Vandalism in the area is high these days, and we don't want to revert any changeset just for being suspect of vandalism.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation, Data Working Group.

Dear *Frank212,

Please answer the questions from Kadubei, before you continue mapping.

Deleting names is not generally acceptable, because we lose information.

We have a good naming system to accommodate names in different languages. For instance, for this area, we have the name:hy for Armenian language and name:az for Azeri language.

This area is under closed surveillance due to the recent events in Nagorno-Karabakh and some vandalism by different users.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation, Data Working Group.

Reverted for mass vandalism.
DWG Ticket#2023102110000246
changeset/142963721

Dear Chrissooo,

It's more than a month ago that you received the comments of these two users about the non-ideal deletion of tracks inside the Dandenong Ranges National Park, paths that are forbidden and out of limits to visitors.

While we all understand clearly the reasons behind these deletions, user aharvey has also told you that, instead of deleting tracks that do exist on the ground, we have a rich tagging system that allows us to keep those tracks information in the OSM database while having the apps not to show them for visitors.

Instead of following those local Australian community tagging conventions, you have continued to delete tracks until these last days. Just few days ago we have received a complaint from yet another user telling you are deleting tracks from the database.

I kindly invite you to engage in a discussion with the involved users, so that all together we can find the best solution to this matter, that is not a serious nor difficult one to solve.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023102110000175 — Issue #27884]

Dear Ramying and Friniate:

I kindly invite you to discuss over this naming issue (an ongoing discussion in the OSM community forum might be a good place [1], or any other forum as far as it is open), instead of initiating any edit war over this issue, that is always unacceptable.

Dear Ramying: Please answer this changeset question by Friniate so we may have your opinion.

Best Regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023091710000122]

[1] https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/old-italian-and-german-toponyms-in-slovenia/102062

Dear secondaryhighway,

You've been warned by several users worldwide about mass changes of highway tagging, mainly related with the service=* tag, but not only.

First of all, mechanical edits must be discussed following the automated edits code of conduct [1]. This means you have to discuss your plans with the affected communities (local and/or worldwide) and document all the process, tools, etc, beforehand.

Second, all these problematic edits have had to be reverted, and that's a waste of precious time that could have been avoided if you had asked about your plans before starting to make changes. Many thanks to user Mateusz Konieczny!!

So please stop making these changes, and discuss any plans with the involved communities before you resume mapping.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023080610000092]

[1] osm.wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct

Drogi Filosiq:

Kilku użytkowników komentuje wiele Twoich zestawów zmian, wskazując na błędne i fikcyjne edycje. Proszę, sprawdź wszystkie te zestawy zmian i odpowiedz na ich komentarze przed kontynuowaniem wprowadzania zmian na mapie. Oferują oni również swoją pomoc, abyś mógł poprawić swoje mapowanie.

Twoje komentarze również nie mają charakteru informacyjnego. Proszę, rób dobre komentarze, aby inni użytkownicy mogli zrozumieć, co robisz. Masz wiki, gdzie jest napisane, jaki powinien być dobry komentarz: osm.wiki/Pl:Dobre_komentarze_zestawu_zmian

Pozdrawiam,

Rafael Avila Coya, w imieniu OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

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Dear Filosiq:

Several users are commenting many of your changesets, pointing to erroneous and fictitious edits. Please, check all those changesets and answer to their comments before continuing to make changes to the map. They are also offering you their help so you can correct your mapping.

Your comments are also not informative. Please, make good comments, so other users will be able to understand what you are doing. You have a wiki where it tells you what a good comment should be: osm.wiki/Pl:Dobre_komentarze_zestawu_zmian

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023080310000061]

Hola, Jordi MF II,

Estás recibiendo varios mensajes del usuario Jordi MF a las que no contestas.

Las quejas son porque estás cambiando nombres de calles violando, aparentemente, la regla de "Mapear lo que hay sobre el terreno (Map what's on the ground rule).

También estás, aparentemente, abreviando nombres de centros educativos, cuando el consenso no es ese. El consenso es poner el nombre no abreviado en name=* y puedes usar la etiqueta short_name=* para las abreviaturas. Por favor, lee esta wiki antes de continuar: osm.wiki/ES:Nombres

Finalmente, aún no siendo ilegal, no creo que sea muy adecuado usar un nombre tan parecido al de otro usuario. Ten presente que puedes cambiar tu nombre de usuario en todo momento. Mi recomendación es que uses otro.

Por todo esto, por favor, deja un rato de mapear y contesta a las preguntas de Jordi MF. OpenStreetMap es, ante todo, una comunidad de usuarios, y como comunidad debemos mapear de una forma consensuada, discutiendo los diferentes enfoques para llegar a acuerdos y disfrutar cartografiando.

Saludos cordiales,

Rafael Avila Coya, Fundación OpenStreetMap, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023072510000192]

Well, digging into the question, I found this discussion in github: https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/issues/994

I've overpassed the whole database, and land masses are divided in two with respect to this tagging: 102 are tagged as type=land_area and 93 as type=boundary + boundary=land_area

I hadn't checked that the wiki hasn't been discussed enough. It has only two versions.

It would be interesting to bring this discussion to the tagging mailing list.

Rafael.

Sent message with 0-hour block: osm.org/user_blocks/7323

Rafael Avila Coya, OSMF's DWG

[Ticket#2023071910000202]

Dear mboeringa,

We have received a complaint about this change of the tag capital from "yes" to "2".

The OSM community has agreed de facto on this tagging: capital=*#How_to_map

Moreover, it's not true that "other country capitals" are tagged as capital=2 instead of capital=yes. Just check Paris (node/17807753) or London (node/107775) as just two examples.

I have changed the value of capital back to "yes" for Madrid city node, and added admin_level=2, although this last tag is not really needed, as capital=yes implies already admin_level=2.

In case you disagree, please get in touch with the OSM local community before any change to the map.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

[1] node/21068295

[Ticket#2023071810000115]

Just one comment about your changeset comment: we don't map in order to facilitate the use of the data, but in order to describe what we have on the ground. So changing an object tag just to facilitate the "export as geometry" is unacceptable.

Regards,

Rafael.

Dear Hadtune,

You have changed the tagging of quite many land masses, like Mainland Australia here. Your new tagging is not compliant with what the wiki says for this kind of objects. Please see: osm.wiki/Relation:land_area

You've done it apparently without a previous discussion with the community.

As a result, we have received a warning from one user, pointing to this issue.

Please, stop doing these changes to the map, and answer the questions other users ask you, like the one from Triskal above.

I am afraid that your changes will have to be reverted at some point.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of OSMF's Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023071810000133]

Dear wizerbar,

In this changeset you added house numbers to several buildings. Yet, you say the source are Esri aerial imagery, from which we can't get house numbers.

There are repeated claims you are using cadastre data for your edits.

Please, stop your mapping until you explain what the sources of your data are.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of the OSM Foundation, Data Working Group

[Ticket#2023071110000084]

Уважаемый wizerbar,

В этом наборе изменений Вы добавили номера домов к нескольким зданиям. При этом Вы указываете, что источником являются аэрофотоснимки Esri, из которых мы не можем получить номера домов.

Вы неоднократно утверждали, что используете для своих правок кадастровые данные.

Пожалуйста, прекратите картографирование, пока не объясните, что является источником ваших данных.

С наилучшими пожеланиями,

Rafael Avila Coya, OSMF Data Working Group

[Ticket#2023071110000084]

Non, je voulais dire que j'avais corrigée l'île de Goré.

Hi again,

I add this wiki, that explains in good detail what we should take in mind about naming in OSM: osm.wiki/Names

Note that for the name=* tag it says the following: "For disputed areas, please use the name as displayed on, e.g., street signs for the name tag". So there you have one clue to guide you on your naming for your area.

Best regards,

Rafael.

أهلا مرة أخرى،

أضفت هذا الويكي ، الذي يشرح بتفصيل جيد ما يجب أن نأخذه في الاعتبار حول التسمية في OSM: osm.wiki/Names

لاحظ أنه بالنسبة name=* العلامة تقول ما يلي: "بالنسبة للمناطق المتنازع عليها ، يرجى استخدام الاسم كما هو معروض على ، على سبيل المثال ، لافتات الشوارع لبطاقة الاسم". لذلك لديك دليل واحد لإرشادك في تسمية منطقتك.

أطيب التحيات،

رافائيل.

Dear all,

First of all, please avoid any naming edit war. Such a behavior is unacceptable in OSM, and would eventually end up with users being blocked, in order to stop changing a place name over and over.

OpenStreetMap relies on local OSM communities to decide about many different aspects of mapping their areas. When there is disagreement about a particular matter, like place naming, the best advice is to follow the on the ground rule: osm.wiki/Good_practice#Map_what's_on_the_ground

It's not us the Data Working Group who should tell what the best rule would be for Algeria, but as far as I've seen from different internet images, the signs of roads, places and streets look to be most of the time in arabic + french, like for example "تازولت Tazoult".

So one possibility would be to tag place names in those two languages, as people will find that in the signs along the road. On the contrary, English doesn't look to be used for signs on the ground and it's not the Algeria official language, so it should be avoided in the name=* tag (there is the name:en=* tag for that).

Adding two or even three languages in the name=* tag is very common in OSM, so you don't need to agree to put the name=* in only one language. One example is in Morocco, where they put the name of places in three different languages.

Best regards,

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

أعزائي،

بادئ ذي بدء ، يرجى تجنب أي حرب تحرير التسمية. مثل هذا السلوك غير مقبول في OSM ، وينتهي في النهاية بحظر المستخدمين ، من أجل التوقف عن تغيير اسم المكان مرارًا وتكرارًا.

تعتمد OpenStreetMap على مجتمعات OSM المحلية لاتخاذ قرار بشأن العديد من الجوانب المختلفة لرسم خرائط مناطقهم. عندما يكون هناك خلاف حول مسألة معينة ، مثل تسمية الأماكن ، فإن أفضل نصيحة هي اتباع القاعدة على الأرض: osm.wiki/Good_practice#Map_what's_on_the_ground

نحن لسنا نحن مجموعة عمل البيانات التي يجب أن تحدد أفضل قاعدة للجزائر ، ولكن بقدر ما رأيت من صور الإنترنت المختلفة ، تبدو علامات الطرق والأماكن والشوارع في معظم الأوقات باللغة العربية + الفرنسية ، مثل "تازولت تازولت".

لذا فإن أحد الاحتمالات هو وضع علامات على أسماء الأماكن بهاتين اللغتين ، حيث سيجد الناس ذلك في اللافتات الموجودة على طول الطريق. على العكس من ذلك ، لا يبدو أن اللغة الإنجليزية تستخدم للإشارات على الأرض وليست اللغة الرسمية للجزائر ، لذلك يجب تجنبها في الاسم name=* العلامة (هناك الاسم name:en=* علامة لذلك).

تعد إضافة لغتين أو حتى ثلاث لغات في name=* tag أمرًا شائعًا جدًا في OSM ، لذلك لا تحتاج إلى الموافقة على وضع nameبلغة=* واحدة فقط. أحد الأمثلة في المغرب ، حيث وضعوا أسماء الأماكن بثلاث لغات مختلفة.

أطيب التحيات،

Rafael Avila Coya, on behalf of OSM Foundation, Data Working Group.

[Ticket#2023071610000191]