dekstop's Comments
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| So I completed a PhD on community engagement in HOT and Missing Maps... | Thank you Iyan, the pleasure is all mine, it’s such a privilege to have you on the team! |
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| Validation feedback can provide important social affirmation | Thanks all for the kind words! Many apologies for the delays, as you may have guessed I’m currently swamped with misc commitments. I’m collecting all feedback in preparation for a further analysis pass sometime in March, so all your suggestions are much appreciated. I’m particularly interested in your suggestions about how to safeguard the analysis: for an observational study like this, it’s important to measure carefully, and to take into account any confounding factors that may introduce a systemic bias in outcomes. Marion Barry: I’m including both automated messages (required when rejecting a task) and manual @mentions, but only consider messages that have been sent by a validating user at the time of validation. I ‘m not currently considering whether people actually read the message, but agree that it would be a good addition; it can increase our confidence in the causal link. Tallguy – I agree, this seems to be a good summary: “there needs to be a message”. BushmanK: yes, this is about HOT contributors only, I do not observe OSM activity outside of HOT. I edited the intro to make it clear that I’m talking about HOT. It’s feasible that the OSM community might operate quite differently; it’s also likely a much more complex space than HOT. tekim – correct, I don’t go into detail in the short writeup above, but I see that many mappers don’t return after their first contribution, and likely never see any messages. As you suggest, this introduces a potential for confounding factors, which I try to address by introducing a set of carefully selected control variables that can serve as broad proxies for a propensity to remain engaged. Please let me know if you have ideas for other factors to control for. However, this is still only an observational study, and there is a risk that we identify spurious causes. We would have to run experiments to confirm these relationships. mapeadora – interesting, thanks for these examples! I appreciate when people share such stories, because currently I don’t think many people have reflected very deeply about the contributor experience from this side. Everyone’s experiences will be different, but the sharing of personal experiences helps a lot to make our understanding of the process more concrete. tekim – I’ve seen some validators use OSM direct messages in addition to TM messages; unfortunately I don’t have access to OSM DMs, so can’t include them in the analysis. Jorieke – intriguing thought! There definitely are different “styles” of validation, but so far I’ve not compared their impact; in part because we might not yet have enough observational data available for such a fine-grained analysis. Maybe in another 1-2 years… :) Thanks Tyler! I’m looking forward to the next TM as well :) The design discussions around it are definitely moving in the right direction! |
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| Validation feedback can provide important social affirmation | Thanks Nate! Yes I thought I should start sharing these before the TM3 team starts committing to specific goals… tyr_asd: ah, a very good point. I added a paragraph to the end of the labelling section to explain the statistical method. Please let me know if it’s still unclear; I guess I initially left it out because it’s quite hard to avoid using overly technical language when explaining it. (Maybe someone else has a better way of expressing it?) RebeccaF: Thank you! Yes, I don’t go into the details here, but I found that the effect of feedback diminishes with each additional day of delay; this is independent of the kind of feedback that is given. Luckily, these days most feedback arrives quickly: as I mention above, 50% of all feedback was given within 28 hours. I expect that with our maturing validator community, this will get even quicker over time. Please let me know if that didn’t clarify it! |