@amanda, I noticed that too. But both words are of Anglo-Saxon/ Old English/ Old Saxon origin, as far as I’m aware. Maybe “pund” is something naughty in Old Norse, so they continued only with the synonym. :D

I agree with SomeoneElse that they have different functions and should be tagged different.

However, having looked at the 7 entries for “pound” on the Canmore database, they looked more like sheepfolds to me (location in remote areas and size) and were called either “Sheepfold” or “Cattlefold” on the old OS maps. That does not mean that we have to follow their example. 7 is of course not a representative number, but these are the only listed monuments I could find.

It could also be that people in Ireland used “pound” for any type of enclosure, including the ones were a fee has to be paid AND sheepfolds/ cattlefolds. As I have laid out in my video about them, the accounts in the Schools’ Collection rarely explain the function of the enclosure referred to as “pound”.

The National Monuments Service in the Republic of Ireland only has a category “enclosure” which could be anything from a unidentified ringfort (plough-levelled) to an unidentified ecclesiastical enclosure (i.e. early monastery site) to an animal enclosure to possibly even some burial site. It’s can be hard to tell, when you only see a cropmark on aerial imagery, and you can’t go excavating 10,000+ enclosures to figure out what they were used for.

I’ve just checked Canmore; they also call them “pound” and list 7 of them. They don’t have “pinfold” as a classification.

I’m still waiting to be shown a historic car pound in real life or in a heritage database.

I understand that you feel more comfortable with “pinfold”, but most people in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and New England will probably not know what it is, because they all use(d) “pound”.

The value is now documented in the Wiki, so anyone in doubt can read there how to use the tag, so there shouldn’t be any confusion.

Hi, I only came across your name while writing the report about the Fingal task in Ireland and had wondered who that was. Thanks for helping out! It is very much appreciated.

Das waere auch mein Vorschlag gewesen. :D

I meant a fox covert that is still used as such. It was my hunting friend who wrote the book about Fox Hunting in Co. Kilkenny who told me that. I’m inclined to believe her. I’m sure there are former Fox Coverts which still bear the name that are now used to grow wood. The name stuck, just like it did with field names that are no longer used in their original purpose, like “The Kennels”, “Flax Field”, “Lime Kiln Field”.

Interesting case, I haven’t come across those, but a lot in Kilkenny are integrated into fences, so you could hold on to the fence. Back to your question, maybe a https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boot_scraper:handle=yes?

@Matt_: I did, yes. I might even add a German version. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

@motogs: That is a fair point. The 6 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=boot_scraper that are already mapped are also in that park context. I have no problem with separating the two uses, because boot scrapers in “my” sense are used when entering a place and are strictly associated with entrances, because that was my approach, whereas the boot cleaners in nature are of a different date and somewhat purpose, more variety in how the cleaning is done and being used when leaving a place (always?). I wouldn’t mind if the nature ones (scrapers and brushes) are all mapped as https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=boot_cleaner. I think they can also sometimes found at farms to prevent the spread of BSE and things like that, but I’m not sure if they’re not a type of bath for wellies and how permanently they are installed.

I will move this also to the talk page on the wiki, because I would have to re-write the page in parts, if we come to an agreement.

I was pleasantly surprised that almost all, if not all martellos were mapped in some shape or form.

I was actually wondering whether we should have a ref:martello for all the numbered ones in the UK and Ireland, even though some numbers might overlap, maybe ref:IE:martello and ref:UK:martello.

I forgot to mention it here, but I said it in the video: left/right is always seen as going into the door, because that is when you use the boot scraper.

@valhikes: I mapped them from my “cultural background”, but interesting to hear that they are finding a sort of revival. As long as the tag can be added to something they’re associated with or attached to, all is well, I think.

Thanks for those, EdLoach. According to the number on Wikipedia, only half the number of originally built martello towers is on OSM, but I don’t know how many actually survive. Some might have fallen victim to coastal erosion already.

Gute Idee, Leute zum Mappen zu motivieren, aber ich rate normalerweise Leuten ab, zuallererst ihr Haus zu kartografieren, weil ja dann jeder sofort weiss, wo der User wohnt. Lieber mit dem Haus eines Verwandten oder so anfangen. Klar is da die Motivation anders, aber Privatsphaere wird in Deutschland ja doch sehr ernst genommen.

Danke trotzdem fuer die ausfuehrliche Anleitung.

Haeuser in Deutschland haben durchaus Namen neben der Hausnummer, vor allem solche, die Pensionen sind oder waren (nehme ich an, ich kenne ja nicht die Geschichte jeden Hauses) - “Villa Soundso”, eher in kleineren Staedten, z. B. Eisenach.

(Tippfehler bei Schritt 8 in der Ueberschrift)

Congrats! Still one of my favourite tools around OSM!

As a non-native English speaker, I would expect a vent to be vertical and a pipe to be horizontal. I was also going by what they are called on wikidata. One of the more recently produced ones (c.2020) had a sticker “vent shaft” on them even.

If you’re not pulling our legs and it’s not photoshopped (haven’t watched the movie and not planning to), the trees are a dead giveaway that it is OSM, in my opinion. Well spotted.

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