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85587328 over 5 years ago

A lot of thanks for correcting combined cycle- & footways!

85315939 over 5 years ago

Hej, med tanke på att osm är ett one layer system - i motsättning till andra geo-system - så bör stor omsorg läggas ned på att inte "nita ihop" landuse och highway. node/7429785550. En ändring - t ex förskjutning (justering) av landuse-way - påverkar sträckan för highway, oftast menligt.

82417820 over 5 years ago

Ja, du har ju rätt i huvudsak förutom en sak. Jag kollade åter definitionen i wikin på footway. Lägg märke till "minor pathways which are used mainly or exclusively by pedestrians". Det är således själva användandet "used" som är avgörande, inte skyltningen. Om du tänker dig en väg som du ofta ser tvärs över gräsmattan - en genväg - med andra ord. Den är inte skyltad som gångstig. Men du skulle nog ändå tagga den som footway och inte som path. Förmodligen med tillägget informal=yes som indikerar en slags hävdvunnen vägrätt eller ett "olagligt", faktiskt begagnande. Skillnaden i jämförelse med path är att path enl def ligger utanför "urban areas" och är öppen för andra icke-motoriserade färdmedel. Sedan kan man ju vara av delad mening om t ex en motions-/ rekreationsslinga i nära anslutning till "urban" omgivning. path eller footway? Du uppgav i ditt fall att "vägen" endast var tillåten för gångtrafik. Frågan är i detta fall huruvida man kan sätta likhetstecken mellan highway=footway eller highway=path+bicycle=no+horse=no.

82417820 over 5 years ago

Hm, är det inte enklare att tagga i detta fall som highway=footway?

82417820 over 5 years ago

Egentligen är väl skyltningen eller den lokala vägförordningen /-stadgan som är avgörande. Se:

highway=path#Usage_as_a_universal_tag

access=designated

Alltså min tanke var eftersom du hade lagt till foot=yes och bicycle=yes till path och detta är onödigt, så menade du egentligen foot=designated resp bicycle=designated. Det var en välvillig tolkning från min sida, som uppenbarligen var fel. Beklagar.

82417820 over 5 years ago

Du inser förmodligen att foot=yes, bicycle=yes och horse=yes i samband med path är obehövliga. Se: osm.wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Default.
I den andan gjordes rensingarna i cs osm.wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Default

82417820 over 5 years ago

Känner du till förhållandena på platsen, så ändra till det korrekta.

85167598 over 5 years ago

kind like this changeset/84976038?

84898859 over 5 years ago

Fixed. Thanks for spotting this. I checked w osmi this morning and didn't see this. Maybe wasn't yet updated.

84772679 over 5 years ago

Well, you are an expert on gis, but have never come across the name "Svarttjärnet"? Could we agree on that this statement of yours is unserious or unreliable?

Have a look at osm.org/search?query=svarttjärnet

For your information: there are:

27 Svarttjärn
264 Svarttjärnen
12 Svarttjärnet

in Sweden according to osm.

84772679 over 5 years ago

Well this is getting a touch of unseriousness.

May last words on this:

The newer name-form is Svarttjärnen. On older maps it is Svarttjärn and probably in local folks memory as well. You could of course make yourself a laughing stock considering "Svarttjärn" the "correct" name.

https://kso.etjanster.lantmateriet.se/?e=324907&n=6400050&z=12

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svarttj%C3%A4rnen_(G%C3%B6teborg%2C_V%C3%A4sterg%C3%B6tland)

https://www.lansstyrelsen.se/download/18.2e0f9f621636c84402719336/1527745491763/G%C3%B6teborg.pdf

Mind you; there is an other lake in Göteborg, tagged in 2008 as "Svarttjärn" but on lantmäteriets maps named "Svarttjärnen". way/23195032. There has obviously been a shift in naming-procedure.

But some friends of mine, living in this area, are insisting that the truely, correct name is "Svarttjärnet". Should we consider "Svarttjärnet" the "correct" name now?

84782993 over 5 years ago

It dosn't work this way. I advise you to read about the principales of osm here osm.wiki/Sv:Beginners%27_guide

84850993 over 5 years ago

You changed the geometry of yours from yesterday. But have a closer look at the stream way/74010827. Continues through a building and deviates in the woodland area from lantmäteriet quite a bit, don't you think so?

84850692 over 5 years ago

Why is this tree linked to path way/801386707?
All this is hardly in accordance with satellite image or lantmäteriets map.

84790682 over 5 years ago

Are you now in for a tit for tat? See even comments for cs #84772679.

84772679 over 5 years ago

Re DWG: please see osm.wiki/Data_working_group

Re sloppy: Yes of course you are quite right. When you changed the names of the lakes in cs #84772531 and later in cs #84772679 after I had raised objections about this in cs #84767999 this was not sloppieness but faul intent.

In this one (1) day you have been active as a user you have ventured around the world quite a bit https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?uid=11135477#2/-17.1/112.3

So the edits you did in this cs (changeset/84778570), I would call sloppy (way/800818756) and (way/800818754). When you venture that far after just having started editing, you should have acquired sufficient basic knowledge not to make this kind of error (place=islet).

84772679 over 5 years ago

I did switch to English, because I suspect that your rather sloppy cs would be of intrest for the DWG.
The only names, which come from a - as far as I know - non-copyright source are from lantmäteriets maps.
If you know of any established (that is really established, not only known by you and your friends) local name, please put them in loc_name=*.
If you know of any official name, which differs from lantmäteriets maps and is newer and is from non-copyright protected source than lantmäteriets maps, well use them and state those sources.
But as long as you do not present any new source, which is non-copyright potected, you are kindly asked to let lantmäteriets names untouched.

84772679 over 5 years ago

You could use old_name=*

84772531 over 5 years ago

I have reverted your changesets #84772531 and #84772679.

cs #84772531 has been commented before in cs #84767999.

In the reverted cs you deviate from what the swedish agency for geodata - Lantmäteriverket - states regarding the names of lakes.
On Lantmäteriverkets maps - copyrightprotected as well as non-copyrightprotected - calles these lakes Svarttjärnen, Prästtjärnen, Furåstjärnen, Blacktjärnen, Björnåstjärnen, Bergåstjärnen and Hindtjärnen.

You have - without having given any credible source - changed to Svarttjärn, Prästtjärn, Furåstjärn, Blacktjärn, Björnåstjärn, Bergåstjärn and Hindtjärn. You have stated that it dosn't "feel good" with Svarttjärnen etc. [in comment to cs #84767999]

You may have noticed, that even the other lakes around has names with endings -en or -et.

Please do keep these names in accordance with the official names. If you are certain that there are other local names for these lakes use alt_name=* or loc_name= respectively.

84772679 over 5 years ago

I have reverted your changesets #84772531 and #84772679.

cs #84772531 has been commented before in cs #84767999.

In the reverted cs you deviate from what the swedish agency for geodata - Lantmäteriverket - states regarding the names of lakes.
On Lantmäteriverkets maps - copyrightprotected as well as non-copyrightprotected - calles these lakes Svarttjärnen, Prästtjärnen, Furåstjärnen, Blacktjärnen, Björnåstjärnen, Bergåstjärnen and Hindtjärnen.

You have - without having given any credible source - changed to Svarttjärn, Prästtjärn, Furåstjärn, Blacktjärn, Björnåstjärn, Bergåstjärn and Hindtjärn. You have stated that it dosn't "feel good" with Svarttjärnen etc. [in comment to cs #84767999]

You may have noticed, that even the other lakes around has names with endings -en or -et.

Please do keep these names in accordance with the official names. If you are certain that there are other local names for these lakes use alt_name=* or loc_name= respectively.