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163463834 10 months ago

hi please note that the source you've used here expressly says

> Essential Energy retains all intellectual and industrial property rights which exist or may exist in or with respect to the information or material. The information or material must not to be copied or distributed by you to any third parties

But regardless, by default works are copyrighted and that means we're only able to use specific sources which we've confirmed are able to be used in OSM osm.wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue

We'll need to remove the data you've added from this source.

163433486 10 months ago

Unfortunately Landgate don't release their data as open data so due to copyright we can't utilise it in OSM. Safest to check the street signage via a ground survey.

163437298 10 months ago

Looks like you may have already found osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Cycling_and_Foot_Paths#Closed/Illegal_Paths because you're tags are close.

What you have is pretty much it, except you got the key=tag a bit mixed up.

We write key=tag so left part is the key and right part is tag, it should be abandoned:highway=path not abandoned=highway=path as you have.

See also abandoned:highway=*

163387873 10 months ago

Okay, I think using `addr:unit` makes it more compatible with existing tools, just think we should have some way to capture the unit type/qualifier/designation.

163387873 10 months ago

A shame to loose the address type qualifier, I know for the Vicmap import we dropped this due to complexity but in this case it was surveyed.
I'm also not sure if there are some mixed used buildings with commercial and residential that would have both Shop 1 and Unit 1 within the same address.

I think it should be okay to do `addr:unit=Shop 1`

addr:*=*#Detailed_subkeys mentions in the US there is no consensus on including the designator

160195851 10 months ago

Thanks for replying, all good.

163271096 10 months ago

I just checked via survey and made some tweaks.

163266500 10 months ago

possibly from the imagery this looks more like residential=terrace? residential=terrace

163267249 10 months ago

looks good

163267471 10 months ago

looks good

163278455 10 months ago

There is informal=yes for informal ways informal=yes however an informal highway=track seems lees likely than highway=path.

highway=track implies that it's physically usable by vehicles (might only be 4wd, or private maintainance workes, but at least someone could), so if that's the case here then that's fine.

I'd suggest to also tag access modes access=*

You said it's not blocked off, so maybe motor_vehicle=yes or permissive?

163271096 10 months ago

I had left this unconnected since it's unclear from imagery, even on Bing it's not clear, if anything Bing seems to show it going more off to the east. Since it seems people are very keen to try and fix this remotely without waiting for a ground survey, I'll change it to go where I think it most likely goes from imagery and add a note to check.

163238940 10 months ago

I just checked on the ground and it's clear that the existing route that we have coming down Hercules then into Victoria continues onto Havilah, as the signage is continuous throughout.

163238940 10 months ago

No rush. There was also a discussion recently on when lcn=yes should go on a way vs using a route relation at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/lcn-tagging-in-australia/123529/25 but I still not sure it's resolved.

163266351 10 months ago

Looks good

163226901 10 months ago

I tweaked a few tags https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/1364663766

In particular access=yes since it's open for all, but also added fee:conditional for conditions for free parking.

Also added park%20ride=*

163238940 10 months ago

I had added this to map the two bicycle route signage indicating from Havilah to turn to Victoria and vice versa from Victoria to Havilah. Perhaps instead we should just extend relation/6282345 to include Havilah as well? Then remove this relation I added.

163147589 10 months ago

hi you've tagged the whole stream as tunnel=culvert, are you sure that's correct? If the stream is open in some places, but channelled through a culvert in other places you can split the way and tag each part differently.

163182250 10 months ago

Looks good.

162873875 10 months ago

Though I know it's tricky when it's just the lane markings and no actual bicycle pictogram painted on the road or other signage, so I'll leave it to those on the ground here to decide.