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Your not alone, many people work at getting a good map. Removing idiocies is one thing .. but there are far more simple errors.

Maps Update: 17th of April

Hi, There is a render that publishes an ‘error’ file for each country/region… I have used that from time to time to see how things are. I have used it from time to time to do any corrections I can.

But a world view of significant changes is nice.

Welcome to OpenStreetMap!

After a number of changset comments to one mapper … and no response .. I tend to get very terse from there on!

This, That & The Other

Pitty it is not named ‘Street Town’

In Tasmania there is Doo Town osm.org/#map=17/-43.03839/147.94237 Unfortunately the houses and their names are not mapped .. house names such as

Doo Us She’ll Doo Doo Little

https://tasmanpeninsula.com.au/wp/places/eaglehawk-neck-1/see-1/doo-town/

Hmm I might just go and map the houses…done, someone els will have to map the names.

Some Accounts Made Many Crossing Ways and Buildings at OSM Data in Jakarta, Indonesia

If your going to name those who have ‘ruined data in OSM Jakarta’ then Ficky has add buildings that are not there!

I do think that naming them is abusive, they should be contacted through OSM and asked about their edits. They may have made human errors, errors that they may fix themselves if informed and encouraged rather than held up in a public way as people who ‘ruin’ things.


How someone else uses JOSM is pure speculation … you need to ASK them!

In JOSM you can select, using the Imagery menu, the background imagery of ‘OpenStreetMap Carto (Standard)’ and that will display all the roads and buildings as well as most other things. You can have more than one imagery in JOSM and select from one to the other, even arrange for one to be transparent so you can see your data, one image with another image visible through all that.

This, That & The Other

1st of April?

Some Accounts Made Many Crossing Ways and Buildings at OSM Data in Jakarta, Indonesia

Hi, Looking at Anjar Example 1 … There is now a road going through 2 buildings .. these buildings were added by the HOT team as Way: 505450991 and Way: 505451322 with source tms[22]:http://imagegeocenter.org/image/rest/services/IndonesiaHOTJan2017/MapServer/tile/{z}/{y}/{x}

That source looks to be as fuzzy as Digiatal Globe premium/ERSI world image clarity .. and all with the same or at lest a very similar offset!

And those buildings … well I cannot see them. So I don’t think they exist … a HOT error. The road going thorough the buildings looks to be real, and probably by one of the mappers that this posting is complaining about.

If you want me to examine any other specific examples .. please specify the way numbers .. pr a changeset number … rather than a screen shot of an area.

Woolaston

I’d think the grounds around a house may be better described as a garden - so leisure=garden, access=private?

Bing imagery

In some areas of the world the Bing imagery is blurred, whereas the DigitalGlobe Premium imagery is not. A trick with overzooming is to turn off loading new tiles … this gets around the DigitalGlobe Premium imagery white tiles.

I would very much prefer the imagery to be different between the different sypliers - it helps with things like cloud cover.

That's weird the Premium DigitalGlobe imagery

Cheat. Turn off auto load tiles etc and you can use the 100m tiles at 50m. Remember to turn the tile loading etc back on to get more tiles.

Possibly the dates of the different photos reveal building work?

Arizona Eastern Railway

Hi Maybe enter it in ‘open historic map’ there are start and end dates … some how make them match the names? osm.wiki/Open_Historical_Map

Good luck. Mine so far have been one start and end date .. but it must be possible to have various rebirths.

Pyrenees Mountain Range Trail

Hi … Not certain what you want to achieve with this entry? Is this cycle route present in OSM? Is this cycle route well mapped in OSM?

Custom Area (Orphanage grounds)

Buildings as ways with tag building=* see osm.wiki/Buildings

Recreation areas ? .. what do you mean? These are sports areas? Then sport=* Parks ? then leisure=park.

Orahanage - as a way on the outer area then tag social_facility=group_home social_facility:for=orphan see social_facility=*

How are you "supposed" to map landuse?

Careful! Do not assume that an area of trees means the land is used for forestry. For an area of trees you can map landcover=trees (and use ‘natural=wood’ for the renders … though it may not necessarily be ‘natural’ in some way).

What about a dessert area? The land may not be ‘used’ at all .. landuse=vacant? Or it may be ‘used’ as a a reserve of some description. Unless you know then it is best left blank as far as landuse goes. It is easy enough to use satellite imagery to add residential areas and some farmland, commercial and industrial areas to the map for landuse. It needs local information to map landuse=forest.

How to track and encourage contribution?

@ Viajero Perdido … patience.. The tile rendering takes time .. and your request is probably in a queue. Add the regular updates and the queue can be quite long. I usually wait a day. As there is a lot to do .. I simple move to another task/area and work on that.

How to track and encourage contribution?

Never tried to ‘track my progress’, never felt the need. Some of my edits I do for forthcoming trips, those I do want to have impact on the resulting map that I use. Some of my edits are to fix errors - those I don’t track other than checking that I have actually ‘fixed’ them. My encouragement is using the map for myself, improving the map for others and hearing and seeing others use the map. The map has been made by many hands, my contribution is small.

antigua data on a garmin gpsmap64s

A correction; “How it looks — rendering problem? There are several map maKERS using OSM data .. which one did you chose? “

Possible source? http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ ?? That has a few rendering options to select from. But I think your screen/colour problem is more likely to be with the GPS settings … Good Luck finding it .. they don’t make things easy.

— Side note … I also occasionally use http://alternativaslibres.org/en/downloads.php mainly for an error source for correcting OSM data.

antigua data on a garmin gpsmap64s

OSM is the data used by map makers to render (make) the map.

How it routes – OSM problem? Possibly the other roads are not ‘connected’ to the other roads, or have not been entered into OSM , or have some characteristic to dissuade their use (access=private for example). As I’m a long way away and have no interest I’m not investigating - enough to do in ‘my’ local areas.

How it looks — rendering problem? There are several map mappers using OSM data .. which one did you chose?

Some problems of Russian forum

Old soccer ‘rule’, “Play the ball, not the man.”

For forum use and here .. it means comment on the object, not the person.

Someone broke that ‘rule’ by mentioning the developers rather than sticking to ‘his’ (his in an ownership sense rather than a personal sense) subject that maps.me did not render certain thing/s.. And it deteriorates from there …

If you manage to keep persons out of the discussion then things will be a lot better. You can see how difficult it is by my use of “his” above .. I could replace it with ‘the’ and not get ‘personal’! But for demonstration I have placed it there so you can see that the person is not relevant .. and can be left out entirely if ‘you’, the writer, are careful.

Note: Do what I say rather than what I do .. I too have fallen into the trap .. very easy to do! Just so easy to generate unintentional ill feeling.

Lavander Ct is spelled

Oh .. forgot .. you’d need ‘source:alt_name’ to state that too if you add the tag ‘alt_name’.

It may be “instructive’ to add a tag ‘comment’ about the spelling of the street name so any mapper looking at it can see your concerns over it.