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125853182 over 3 years ago

Hi
The multipolygon 14549885 (The Terminus?) breaks the rules - outer ways must be disjointed. The outer ways here are joined.

If this is one building then use building:part to map the different parts, but a simple way tagged building=yes etc. See building:part=*
I think the DCS Imagery is better than bing.

125879077 over 3 years ago

That would imply bicycle=dismount.

122138968 over 3 years ago

Don't be afraid of trying things out. 'Control Z' will undo most things. You can also 'save' (upper right tab 'File' then 'save) the work locally to your drive so you don't loose stuff before you try something out... To get back what you saved - upper right 'file' tab 'Open Recent' and select the file name you used.

125549426 over 3 years ago

Don't import unless you know that the information is comparable with OSM requirements! These are very strict, most 'free' CC-BY-SA) sources are not comparable.. The website you linked to is 'for personal use only' so it must NOT be used in OSM. OSM licences its output for any use - including commercial.

What has been entered here for buildings are nodes - single points. You have mapped footpaths as ways .. the same can be done for buildings - the ways must be 'closed' to form a continuous line without gaps. Then you tag the way as, for example, building=house.

59089853 over 3 years ago

Tracktype=grade1 with surface=unpaved...

NO.

tracktype=grade4 ...

125549426 over 3 years ago

Hi
Mapping buildings as simple nodes is quick. But it is better to map them as closed ways, and even better going from building=yes to building=house...

122138968 over 3 years ago

I operate on a very narrow 1%.

Right side bar . relations - select a relation, then at the bottom of that relation window there is an edit button click that - opens a window for the relation .. on the left of that there are a number of buttons .. you want the arrow with the red bubbles beside it .. click on either the up of down arrow and it will sort the way/s you have highlighted. Play with it.. I think I have the descriptions right ... just don't save untill your happy with the result. Or quite without saving. A newer version of JOSN has a rotate function .. I'm keen to see if that does what I want ..

122138968 over 3 years ago

JOSM user here. Makes things like the India Pacific train route much easier! JOSM will automate putting them in order .. then I go through looking at the gaps and filling those in - in this case short sections only, and then redoing the auto sequence, check for gaps .. untill you can get from end to end without gaps .. fairly quick process when the gaps are small. Much harder when gaps are large and there is more than one possible path.

Yes, you look to be more acquainted with it than me, so any errors, by me or others, might get picked up by you.. I hope!

125547434 over 3 years ago

Oh
The Maxar imagery is showing the shelters, so at long last these can be seen.

125547434 over 3 years ago

All yours.

I may have added the vehicle track some time back when the northern route opened .. it was all that was available at the time.

125590218 over 3 years ago

Hi,
I have taken the liberty of making a relation for this trail, See https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=14531438&type=relation&map=12.0/-14.2056/132.3147

I have separated some of the track at campsites to make the sections work.

122138968 over 3 years ago

I reordered them so as to make the trail continuous and in-sequence. This makes it much easier to spot gaps and 'fix' them.

I have not moved anything out of the relation .. unless it conflicted with the route. There was one bit that uses the bibb track but had a short cycle path off to the side, could have removed the bibb track and included a short section of road there .. but well simpler.
I think the alternatives ( I placed the role 'alternative' on them IIRC) could be moved to the 'alternatives' relation. As for the buildings (shelters) and campsites .. they presently have no formal place in the OSM relation.. not that OSM cannot change ... but I see no one thinking of it.

I'm thinking of walking the bibb track .. and as I was making alterations to it and they both use the same bits occasionally I anted to make certain I did not accidentally destroy the bike relation.

125547434 over 3 years ago

Hi,

Way: Larapinta Trail Section 6 (1090363151) is now not part of the Larapinta Trail relation - instead that now has Way: 1044425939 - a vehicle track... Is that intended? As a walker I'd prefer the narrow path compared to the vehicle track :)

123975783 over 3 years ago

"Relations of type multipolygon are used to represent areas (polygons), typically complex areas with holes inside, or consisting of multiple disjoint areas." The building here are not 'disjointed' so break the rules. See osm.wiki/Relation:multipolygon

Possibly use the site relation osm.wiki/Relation:site ???

122138968 over 3 years ago

Sorry .. I'll try for less gibberish. :)

I have edited the Relation: Munda Biddi Trail (5810814) to make it contiguous. I have moved those ways that are not part of the contiguous sequence to the bottom of the relation and added roles that reflect what I think they are. Possibly they should be in the 'Munda Biddi Alternate Relation' ...

Is that somewhat clearer? Note I am not local nor have I walked the trail as yet .. possibly next year, fingers crossed.

125605790 over 3 years ago

Hi,
Way: 1090713488 looks like it could be a container, not a building. Maxar is usually more upto date than other imagery and does not show the thing.. so a container NOT a building.

Suggest you delete it and any others that have gone!
The DCS Imagery is the most accurate for location in NSW. The changeset source only says 'satellite imagery' ... that does not say which one...

125444738 over 3 years ago

Still not fixed...

See https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=120.64522&lat=-23.87898&zoom=17&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways

And quote from osm.wiki/Relation:multipolygon "Relations of type multipolygon are used to represent areas (polygons), typically complex areas with holes inside, or consisting of multiple disjoint areas." Note the 'disjointed areas' .. this is not a disjointed area... so it is not a multipolygon.

125595749 over 3 years ago

Role of Way: 1090662035 should be inner for Relation: Lake Lefroy (14253773)

Leave you to fix it.

122138968 over 3 years ago

Hi,
The Relation: Munda Biddi Trail (5810814) looks to have some alternative bits - I have given them that role and they are towards the bottom of the listed ways. See what you think...

125543180 over 3 years ago

Replacing apartment with roof is not correct! Where did the apartments go? They are still there...

Reverted in full.