Hi LPH. Looking good!

One enhancement I can suggest, for future reference, is the use of highway=turning_circle on the NODE at the end of streets like this.

You can see the effect on the map, just a little to the south.

Happy mapping,
VP in Edmonton

Hi. I think the Old Strathcona rail line needs to be railway=preserved rather than railway=historic (with the other key unchanged), per railway=* , which doesn't mention historic as a recognized value.

It's disappeared from standard map.

Nice job on the zoo!

Assuming these are bike trails, this is normal. Often they're even announced with little signs.

I've added a number of trails and a few POIs, mostly on the other side of the mountain. The trails are from GPS traces that people have uploaded previously.

Hope you like the changes. :)

It looks like you've made all the necessary repairs here, thanks.

I've uploaded my GPS traces, but don't think I need to do anything further here, at least on this (east) side of the mountain.

Hi octel.

Did you figure out HOW these tracks came to be missing?

I just spent 3 weeks hiking around Seoul, and definitely noticed a lack of certain trails, which cost me some time and many calories. I'd been using offline maps that were snapshotted, I think, just before you made these repairs. Meaning, the trails were missing for me.

Over on Bukhansan, I was trying to diagnose the disappearance of some trails there, but WHODIDIT wasn't returning any changesets that could account for the disappearance. But I do know earlier maps showed trails there that aren't mapped now.

If this is the result of a rogue editor, I hope they can be persuaded to stop.

Cheers from Canada,
VP,
an avid hiker, geocacher, and lover of Korean food. :)

Done for the four changesets, thanks.

I won't look at your other changesets (eg USA); that's outside "my area" so I claim no local knowledge. :)

Cheers and happy mapping,
VP

Correction; "haven't more than glanced at them yet".

Roger wilco, thanks for understanding.

Do you mind if I also revert the two Ghost Lake and the Spray Lakes changeset? (After review that is; I haven't looked at them yet.) Also, are there any changes in those four changesets that are unrelated to this issue, that you think should be kept?

Thanks,
VP

Thanks. I'm back at a real computer now, and slowly getting over jet lag.

This is the recent discussion on the issue. Would you mind having a look? https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=62581

I'd still need to be convinced track is appropriate here, especailly since it appears that discussion ended up leaning the other way.

But as it is, the whole region would need to be consistently mapped one way, or the other. As it is right now, 1) you can't car-auto-route from Hinton to Robb via the FTR (logical choice) and 2) the entire Chungo Road / Wapiabi Road network and their tributaries are orphaned from the road network, being linked only by tracks.

If you agree, would you mind reverting these changes? If you're unfamiliar with the tools for that, let me know; I can do it.

Thank you,
VP in Edmonton

PS, this breaks auto-routing, eg to Cadomin, or Nordegg to Hinton, and thus needs to be fixed promptly.

Also, it's quite illogical to have lower-grade ways such as track being the only access to higher-grade ones such as unclassified, such as you've left things.

You're making a mess of a maintained area. Please edit somewhere else.

Hold on there please. The Forestry Trunk Road is a secondary highway, a 3-digit numbered road, built to a high standard, although unpaved. It's used for more purposes than you mentioned, including getting from A to B, property access, oil & gas, and I'm sure I've forgotten a few usages. Changing it to a track is clearly wrong.

Have you seen the discussion on this issue on the OSM forum?

I am probably the main editor of this region, and have classified the ways according to my best interpretation of the wiki. These changes are wildly inconsistent and risk starting an edit war.

I'm travelling right now, and don't have the time/tools to investigate further and react as appropriate. In the meantime, please undo. Thank you.

Hi SimMoonXP.

Why "track" for the roads to/in El Nogalito? These roads are more significant than the definition of "track" would suggest, see highway=track?uselang=en-US

"Do not use tracks to represent public unpaved roads in built-up areas"

The fact they are unpaved shouldn't force a "track" designation.

Thanks Meliora.

I just wanted to give a heads-up on the nature of BC waterways, in case you weren't familiar with the area in person, and were running some scripts that assumed a default of "stream" for waterways. (I'm not sure how CanVec import works exactly.)

In patchwork fashion I've fixed up the odd enormous river (eg Joffre Creek, Horsethief Creek) to actually be a river, but never had the ambition to try to fix the whole province. I have plenty to work on in Alberta. :)

Cheers from Edmonton, VP

Thanks. I've done some as islet, eg on Chip Lake, and they render appropriately.
Cheers, VP

Hi AG.
I think the islands in Astotin Lake, even the biggest, would be better mapped as place=islet, per the 1-square-km guideline at place=islet

They really jumped out at me on a particular map/theme combo, rendered very dramatically due to place=island, bigger than Tofield. Also Koney Island on Cooking Lake, same effect, but CanVec gets credit for that.

I meant sizes, "messed up smaller settlement sizes". Every one-dog hamlet is a village, which by OSM rules is rather large by rural AB standards...

The smarter maps may look at population as well, yeah.

And it looks like we have the wiki convention, and the Canadian convention. Some of that difference may be due to the old GNSS import, "experimental", which messed up smaller hamlet names across the country. I contemplated fixing that up for Alberta, then realized it affects the whole country, then realized I can't even win with a single suburb (Chestermere) without starting an edit war. So I gave up on that idea and found something else to work on. :) Cheers.