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134960858 over 2 years ago

Servus Hans,

da ist wohl Dank Potlatch einiges an den Busrelationen schief gelaufen?

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/DE/BY/DE-BY-MVV-Analysis.html#bus_721

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/DE/BY/DE-BY-MVV-Analysis.html#share_taxi_7030

Gruß
Toni

134963338 over 2 years ago

Servus,

bzgl. Straße (?) zwischen Pischertshofen und Geisenhofen way/37995754 : ist das wirklich nur ein highway=path mit motor_vehicle=no?

Hier fährt ein Linienbus lang 871

relation/13489459

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/DE/BY/DE-BY-MVV-Analysis.html#bus_871

Viele Grüße
Toni

134735146 over 2 years ago

Danke Richard,

ich habe bicycle=yes und foot=yes mal entfernt, damit access=no für alle gilt.

Gruß
Toni

134735146 over 2 years ago

Servus,

ist der Weg weiter hin für bicycle und foot offen?

access =no wird durch bicycle=yes und foot=yes wieder geschwächt.

Wenn's nur für motor_vehicle gesperrt ist, ist access=no nicht optimal.

Gruß
Toni

134527530 over 2 years ago

Well, I guess, noexit=yes on a node of a landuse=forest is an unintended mistake.

134483242 over 2 years ago

Hi EarlyBird,

willkommen bei OSM.

Der "Bayern Atlas" ist als Quelle leider nicht erlaubt, insbesondere Hausnummern nicht. Wir sind deswegen schon angemahnt worden.

Nach derzeitigem Stand dürfen wir ausschließlich die "Bayern DOP 80 cm" als Hintergrundbild in iD, JOSM, ... verwenden.

VG
Toni

120207490 over 2 years ago

Thanks.

129736353 over 2 years ago

Yes, I think your mapping scheme is somehow PTv2 compatible. PTNA accepts this kind of mapping when option "--ptv1-compatibility=no|allow|show" is set positively.
However: you tag highway=bus_stop besides the road with 'role'='stop' in the relations. I'd say 'role'='platform' is more appropriate in that case to be fully compatible with PTv2's backward compatibility.

But that's of course your choice. If you would tag such a relation with 'public_transport:version'='2', PTNA would complain about the role.

> "If possible" is a very vague basis for definition though.

Yes, I agree. I'd say that if the stop_position on the road exists it should be included into a relation accordingly. But there is no need to create a stop_position if it does not exist yet.

134396811 over 2 years ago

Thanks, was my typo caused by autocompletion 'na' and TAB should have resulted in 'name' not 'natural'

134111570 over 2 years ago

Hi,

da gibt es noch eine Bus Route, die Einbahnstraßen in der falschen Richtung nutzt

See https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/DE/NW/DE-NW-WT-Analysis.html#bus_T37

Gruß
Toni

120207490 over 2 years ago

Hi,

is this bridge still under construction?
Do you know any opening data?

Regards
Toni

127734483 over 2 years ago

Servus,

ist die Massener Heide hier für Busse erlaubt?

Sollte evtl. access=no durch motor_vehicle=destination + psv=yes ersetzt werden?

Siehe https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/DE/NW/DE-NW-WT-Analysis.html#bus_147-2

Gruß
Toni

134394852 over 2 years ago

Servus,

durch diesen Edit sind in *sehr viele* Routen Lücken gerissen worden - mag wohl an iD-SW liegen.

U.A. aber nicht nur hier https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/DE/DE-Bahnverkehr-Analysis.html#train_RE_42

Gruß
Toni

129736353 over 2 years ago

I saw your area being mentioned here

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/public-transport-version-2/97588

129736353 over 2 years ago

Thanks.

I've checked only one route and think that this was actually a PTv2 route with backward compatibility (hw=bus_stop) to older mapping schemes - except that member ways were sorted before member stops (for this particular route relation - an exception itself to your mapping style?). stop_positions and platforms in PTv2 are optional, so your scheme matches with PTv2.

The first row in the table of
osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Public_Transport&oldid=625726#Compatibility_with_well_known_tags
Regards
Toni

129736353 over 2 years ago

Hi Johan,

just for curiosity: what's the special thing about public_transport:version=3 in that area? Never heard about this version.

I'm the author of PTNA, a tool for PTv2 (and PTv1) analysis.

Regards
Toni

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/

133837637 almost 3 years ago

The major difference is

- railway=car_shuttle for transfer point

- railway=stop or railway=halt for all normal traffic

134361485 almost 3 years ago

Hi Steffen

hmm, nachdem wir sogar Kasernen und Militärgelände mit access=private (und nicht =no) taggen wäre das hier auch passender: Zutritt nur mit ausdrücklicher Genehmigung des Besitzers. Oder sogar access=permit (=Eintrittskarte).

VG
Toni

133837637 almost 3 years ago

node/4592378548 represents the stop position of trains for public transport relations mapped according to the so called PTv2 (public transport version 2 = osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Public_Transport&oldid=625726 )

The node is part of a stop_area and a route relation of the RE6, both with role 'stop'.

node/4278583112 is, from the PTv2 perspective the same, a stop position for trains

according to osm.wiki/OpenRailwayMap/Tagging#Car_shuttle it shouldn't be mapped as railway=halt but rather as railway=car_shuttle a transfer point

But many mappers are not familiar with the details of railway= mapping - me included.

134361485 almost 3 years ago

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