Nereikia klausyti JOKIŲ iD patarimų „taisyti pasenusį“ žymėjimą. Dabartinis žymėjimas yra geras, iD siūlo neteisingą žymėjimą.

Laba diena. Ar tikrai šitoj kolonėlėj yra specializuota dulkių siurblių parduotuvė? :-)

Laba diena. O privažiavimą prie pilkapynų/upės paskutiniu metu kaip nors pagerino? Nes kaip jis anksčiau atrodė, niekaip netempia iki highway=unclassified.

Kas čia per lankytina vieta/what kind of attraction is this? Ar tikrai tai turistinis objektas/is it really a tourist object? node/9164112954

Manau gerai, barrier=*, koks tiksliai barrier nėra taip svarbu.

I'm suggesting that if you do not know how rivers in Lithuania actually look, you will not be adding any value by doing guesswork and then (directly or indirectly) asking locals to fix. It is easier/faster for us to draw the riverbank from scratch than to fix existing bad data. This particula riverbank segment I can draw in 5 minutes if I delete your data first. If I were to fix your data, it would take half an hour or even longer.

Have you been in that place or in any of Lithuanian rivers?

Riverbanks are never so wiggly in Lithuania. Riverbank lines are much more straight. And of course it is better than nothing, but when time will come for this river to be fully tagged for cayaking, its riverbanks and surrounding areas will also be fixed (unless somebody will fix it earlier).

No, it was automated QA scripts which DETECTED errors and afterwards they were reviewed and fixed manually.

If service=driveway is not ok for you, change them to other value, not remove them entirely.

In Lithuania we have clearly defined way to tag riverbanks (https://lt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Atviro_%C5%BEem%C4%97lapio_vadovas/Redagavimas/Plotai). All other values are NOT valid in Lithuania. Double tagging is a bad practice and also not valid in Lithuania where we strive for high quality of GIS data. Note: waterway=riverbank IS NOT deprecated and never was (it is a known bug in iD to lie about depreciation/improvement of tags). All non standard tagging is detected by our QA rules and therefore are fixed straight away. (And we will have to fix you riverbank anyway, as geometries are not satisfactory).

Aš taip suprantu, kad paveldas ten visai ne mūrai, kurie labiau primena šitą „pilį/tvirtovę“: https://www.google.lt/maps/@54.6847097,25.0542767,3a,75y,239.77h,93.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soiseclj_QCw-MtMrTJaQ1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Bet čia šiaip, pamąstymui. Nesakau, kad kažką dabar pat reikia keisti su Tauragės „pilimi“ :-)

Pataisyk, jei klystu, bet Tauragės „pilis“ statyta pakankamai neseniai (XIXa), tai kičas neturintis nieko bendro su kažkokiais istoriniais faktais, tikromis ginybinėmis/reprezentacinėmis pilimis ir pan.? Tai nežinau, kiek čia tinka defensive. Man ir tower, ir castle žymos kelia klausimų :-) Valdovų rūmai bent jau rekonstruoti, o čia lyg ir tiesiog kažkas neturėjo ką veikti?

It is a typical basin for Lithuania. Water is removed for cleaning purposes less often than in large reservoirs. The right question to ask is why iD is adding this tag by default where such objects are almost never intermittent. And I wouldn't even count wastewater plant basins as intermittent. Only some tiny streams are intermittent in Lithuania.

Peržiūrėjau. Iš principo gerai. Tik atstačiau waterway=ditch (nereikėjo keisti į drain) ir takiukui nebūtina vesti pločio (jo nėra/neišmatuojamas), ar kad automobiliams negalima važiuoti, tam jis ir takiukas :-)

Reviewed and reverted. iD is a bad editor giving incorrect suggestions. More info here: osm.wiki/WikiProject_Cartography/Waterways

landcover=grass|trees yra toks pereinamas/bandomasis variantas (nors jau virš metų bandomas, tai gal pats laikas į paviršių kelti). Mintis tokia, kad kai turim nedidelius žole ar medžiais apaugusius plotus gyvenamojoje, komercinėje, pramoninėje žemėnaudoje, tai tada dedam landcover, kurį vaizduojam tik stambiausiuose masteliuose (vidutiniuose/smulkiuose jie tada neužteršia žemėlapio). landuse=grass/natural=wood mūsų openmap.lt žemėlapiuose nenaudojami, jie paliekami tik OSM vizualizacijose - kad „nepasijaustų“ įtaka. Arba kitais žodžiais landuse=grass|natural=wood yra skirtas OSM-Carto vizualizacijai, o landcover - openmap.lt žemėlapiams.

iD problems are problems of the users of iD - not ours ;-) For larger changesets we do warn and only revert specific parts (unless it is a repeated offence).

1) no, only part relating to kayaking is in a lithuanian blog entry, other information is in archives of talk-lt maillist 2) yes, if you only add man_made=pipeline and/or intermittant - it will not break anything. Relations can and in some cases are used, but in general we do not change waterway type in other similar situations - when streams alter from natural (meandering) to man-made (direct) routes. If there is a name - it is a stream. The same goes for rivers. Canal is not a small part of a river, but a whole thing. Yes, for kayaking we add a dam tag and then add 20minutes of routing time (for taking kayak down) - example: https://upes.openmap.lt/#16.45/54.257825/24.549654 (press right mouse button above and below the dam on the river route to get a route calculation).

We've systematically captured/fixed the data of ALL dams in Lithuania. Agreed and mapped waterway data to have cayaking routing and watershed maps. Your changes are damaging the the working and maintained system. Please elaborate what goals you're after and maybe we will be able to find a mutually acceptable solution.