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157211774 about 1 year ago

I think changing this to 'road under construction' vs. private is more appropriate.

155941083 over 1 year ago

In the future, please spell out the name completely (Court should not be abbreviated when entered in as the road name).

155518355 over 1 year ago

I would caution you that some edits you've made don't reflect the situation on the ground. Your edits have overwritten some of my and others firsthand surveys.

154873300 over 1 year ago

Yes, they should. Just because it has limited hours doesn't mean it's private. I personally conducted a survey during one of their time windows and it was fine to walk around.

152781491 over 1 year ago

There was a total of seven named service roads here. Not sure if you really conducted a thorough survey.

154312743 over 1 year ago

Actually, disregard my previous comment.

I read this on another busway: Per OSM Wiki, "service"tag should still be used for service roads "even if only used by buses e.g. for access to a building, bus station, or parking and not for through-traffic as part of a busway."

154312743 over 1 year ago

I changed the road type to busway. Seems most applicable.

154312743 over 1 year ago

This should not be 'no' for foot and bike. There's a sidewalk here that many use.

154284233 over 1 year ago

Kilo, my changes were based on the survey that I conducted.

Thoreau Path was a giant pedestrian street, could probably even be designated as a service road since there was a service vehicle on one side and another vehicle could easily get by on the other side. Here's a link that even shows some of it: https://urbnparks.com/boston/thoreau-path/

As far as Bowdoin Sq, there was a street sign and those were small pedestrian streets with another sign inside of it for 'Norman Herr Way'.

154118061 over 1 year ago

Hi again,

For this situation located here and my first-hand experience on the ground, 'access=permissive' or 'access=destination' are the most appropriate. I will share my rationale of how I came to the conclusion to use access=destination.

From the Wikis:

Note that access=private is intended to indicate that access is restricted, not whether the object is privately owned or not. Use ownership=private or operator:type=private to record this kind of status. For example, a privately owned road with public access may be tagged like any other road with public access – without access=* tag, or with the explicit access=permissive.

Unfortunately as of 2023 access=private is widely used as a duplicate of access=permissive as well as ownership=private and should not be expected to match the originally intended meaning.

However, since access=permissive indicates that access can be revoked, (Ie, a gate that is commonly left open) Permissive doesn't seem applicable since there is nothing to physically restrict access located here.

Access=destination seems the most fitting since the intended use is to stop navigation apps as you desire: ""no thru traffic" / "local traffic only"

154131470 over 1 year ago

Hi,
This was a bad edit. I have surveyed the road and it exists.

154118061 over 1 year ago

Hi RHMV,
I see you're new to OSM. I have personally surveyed these roads and they are not a candidate for access=private. I have changed them to access=destination as this seems the most fitting for the situation.

Please see below note on Wiki on tagging roads private:

"Note that access=private is intended to indicate that access is restricted, not whether the object is privately owned or not."

153525036 over 1 year ago

Hi, I'm updating the access since I recently surveyed it.

153700032 over 1 year ago

Thanks Elliott! This isn’t the first time that I’ve had to correct mistakes that a Lyft user made. How do I report the issue to the DWG next time?

153180969 over 1 year ago

The GIS is:

https://gis.vgsi.com/SomervilleMAMap/index.html

153180969 over 1 year ago

I don’t fully understand this. Isn’t GIS every towns official source that should be used to verify roads against? Typically each town has one. What should be used as a source?

153090402 over 1 year ago

Fixed.

152781781 over 1 year ago

I was unable to capture all the names on my run last night. If you're able to help with the names, it would be most appreciated!

152781781 over 1 year ago

This cemetery has named service roads in it.

152266407 over 1 year ago

The sign for Dante Terrace doesn't even say private way on it. This shouldn't even be set to access=permissive. The lot could be tagged as such but the road shouldn't.

https://gis.vgsi.com/SomervilleMAMap/index.html