@NatassiaKalesnikava: you can see in this Mapillary image (https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=50.833066299998&lng=-0.14354730000229&z=17&pKey=300885708284675&focus=photo&x=0.4193246674038212&y=0.5312878292066915&zoom=3) that @Thomas Jarvis is correct, only signed with a "No RIght Turn". In this case the restriction has the same effect as a straight-ahead only, but we map what is on the ground.

Hi,

I notice that you mention Google Maps. Please do not look at google maps to add more detail (or to resolve things which cannot be resolved using on-site survey or aerial imagery). It is expressly against both Google's Terms & Conditions & the OSM Contributor terms. Creating data in this way could create unforeseen legal issues (with potentially ruinous costs) for the OSM Foundation.

It can be a bit annoying knowing that one could resolve something, but in practice we get new & better sources of imagery and other data pretty regularly. One just needs a bit of patience to then revisit places and refine the mapping.

Thanks,

Jerry aka SK53

Hi Gregor,

Thanks for your edit. I appreciate that you may have had some inconsiderate people assuming that they could access these roads. However removing private roads is not anything like as beneficial as changing the access to private. It is quite likely someone will be along in a little while, spot that roads are missing & add them again. I will therefore restore these roads but with a more appropriate classification and all access private. This should end up having the same effect as that which you intended.

I must confess a bit of guilt that we hadn't spotted these, all local mappers should know that the & Thoresby Estate & this area in general is private and they certainly should never have been marked as public roads.

I suspect the issues you have had are because the data is routeable, because the same info is available on other maps including official ones. Please note that these were actually sourced (with appropriate permissions) from Ordnance Survey data so all these roads will be shown on official maps too. The actual Ordnance Survey data also looks wrong (you can see it herehttps://os.openstreetmap.org/#zoom=16&lat=53.22922&lon=-1.03641 ). Roads shown in grey without borders are usually private or restricted access, roads in white are usually public roads. The OS mapping S of the lake looks very inconsistent. It may be worth reporting to them too.

OpenStreetMap is no different in that "the presence of a road, path or track is no indication of a right of way". There are many uses of OSM data which may need this information to be present (the range of actual users of OSM ranges from ramblers through to Amazon Logistics & some blue light services).

One last point, if any properties along these roads get deliveries from Amazon & a number of other logistics companies, it may be better to set the main access route as access=destination rather than private. Similar things apply to the church & the study centre marked on the map (if still open). I'm more than happy to make such updates if you advise me what is most appropriate, but for now they are all marked private. I've also made similar changes to a number of other estate roads in the neighbourhood which also looked similarly incorrectly mapped.

Yours,

Jerry aka SK53

I think the same is true of the one in Vic Centre (some press coverage in Nottingham Evening Post).

Sounds an interesting project. I've updated the Dunelm node too (was just passing through Coalville after a visit to woods around Coventry had been rained off, so it was what we call drive-by mapping").

When adding that I noticed the obvious cinema building just to the S of Marlborough Square & based name on recent Food Hygine data.

J

Worth noting that in some places road signs will have a full postcode (providing the road is short enough to only have one). Quite common in Nottinghamshire, and perhaps elsewhere.

Hi Jim,

I'm an occasional Geographer myself & have even added a few in this area, such as: https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4651030.

In Ireland OSM is the base map used, but there are two dedicated contributors in Northern Ireland - Kenny Allen & Albert Bridge - I've been indebted to their photos (& particularly the descriptions) in helping resolve map details on OSM

Unfortunately the area around Coalville, Ibstock & Swadlincote is not mapped in as much detail as some other parts of the East Midlands

Jerry

Hi Jim,

Welcome to OpenStreetMap. It's great to have someone updating a new build estate with local knowledge.

I just thought it worthwhile to say that you can change the status of a road marked as "under construction" by clicking where it says "highway feature" and selecting an alternative such as residential road. Also you can cut a single road (right click menu) and keep part as construction & as houses are occupied the other part residential.

We know that delivery companies make a great deal of use of OSM (Amazon Logistics are significant contributors), so there are definitely advantages getting the information into OSM.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53

Reading the Haengela website it looks to function much more as a restaurant with small 8-person bunkhouse than as an alpine hut. I'm not sure what the standard way of mapping Matrazenlager might be (obviously hostel has been used here. I think this would be better as amenity=restaurant.

I've also added their yurts. The tagging leaves something to be desired, but is what I've used in the UK.

Jerry

Geant-Rochefort Arete is not a path, nor is sac_scale appropriate. It is a serious, albeit not too difficult, alpine course. For instance on Hikr it is here (https://www.hikr.org/tour/post41616.html) graded as AD (ZS) with climbing at III which are both outside the norms for SAC Wandern scale, but inside the norms for Alpinism https://www.sac-cas.ch/fileadmin/Ausbildung_und_Wissen/Tourenplanung/Schwierigkeitsskala/Berg-und-Hochtourenskala-SAC.pdf

Hi Charles,

Welcome to OpenStreetMap & thanks for adding this detail. The on-line editor does not directly support it, but it is possible to directly enter individual addresses for flats.

Assuming the flats are 1-36 with no number 13, this would look like:

addr:interpolation=all
addr:flats=1-12;14-36

if 13 exists the last line is simpler:

addr:flats=1=35

Tags like this can be added by scrolling down on the left hand side of the screen to a section called "All tags" which displays the nitty gritty stuff which is happening behind the scenes.

It's also worth adding entrance=main (again assuming this is the case). You can see examples on adjacent properties.

I think the buildings in this area need some tidying up. I will have a look in a little while.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53

Hi A72,

As you've gone to all the trouble I wouldn't remove them, either add access private or change them to highway=service + service=driveway + area=yes.

I think it's very interesting to know how much of private gardens are devoted to hard standing of some form as it has an impact on surface water run-off (and also people have a tendency to pave over their front gardens exacerbating the issue). It's not something I've mapped (too much work), but having the data somewhere means that people can explore the potential of such data.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53

Hi Brian,

Will do, probably didnt map a landuse or similar when I last visited (4 years & 1 day ago) largely because I dont feel we have a consistent set of tags. However natural=grassland is certainly closer to reality than heath. I can probably add a Phase 1 habitat class too, but NVC undoubtedly beyond me. The NE corner of Ufton Fields is similar habitat, but is cut shorter for the Man Orchids. Both places suffer from scrub encroachment (mainly Hawthorn).

Incidentally the reason I was looking at this was ael's message on talk-gb about surface mining & these kind of relict spoil heaps came to mind. (Ufton Fields of course is another local area with an odd topography as a result of mineral extraction).

I'll see if I can fish out some of the write ups of various areas from the Moth book. The Biological Records Centre and or Wildlife Trust should have a full list of Local Wildlife Sites (not seen these as open data, but suspect they may fall under EIR), and possibly full Phase 1 habitat mapping (Wales is available now as open data, which can be useful comparing the classification for places one knows).

Jerry

Hi Brian,

Harbury Spoil Bank is not heath: it's one of the best examples of calcareous grassland in the county. Lots of plants & insects associated with that habitat: Welted Thistle, Cotton Thistle, Wild Carrot, Autumn Gentian (IIRC). Suspect it's mentioned in David Brown's "Larger Moths of Warwickshire" as a special location (copy upstairs as I type, will check later). So I think natural=grassland is best (like a lot of WWT, Ufton Fields comes to mind, could do with more active management, but resources & volunteers thin on the ground).

Jerry

Hi,

I guess you were on our IRC channel yesterday asking about why your business appears in the wrong city. To help a bit I've added some extra info, changed the retail area to a retail store & added it as an interior decoration business. I've also added parking access, website & partial address (i.e., without zip code & house number). Do feel free to correct any of this if it is inaccurate.

The zip code locations are probably based on the central location of the zip which will be in Weslaco and this may affect which city is returned.

One thing I notice is that you refer to the road as S International Blvd, but we have Bill Summers International Blvd. If these are alternate names we can fix it.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53

Hi SlopeSoarer,

I see you requested a review.

This looks pretty much fine, other than the name=16 Hunter's Close is unnecessary. The important tags are the housenumber, street & postcode. It is very rare for residential properties to have a name tag, so I'd suggest removing these. The housenumber will be rendered automatically anyway, which also makes the map a bit easier to read.

Anyway it's very nice to see detail being added.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53

Not to worry, bit of a long shot. Forgot you'd have probably been past by bike (v useful for covering a good bit of ground).

Hi Thomas,

I dont suppose you walked Claypole FP 3 in doing these changes? If you did was there any evidence of Newark Model Flying Club? I've I've just mapped this because of discussion on talk-gb because I know someone who is a member.

Jerry

Many thanks for doing this, presumably a massive improvement for all concerned (six stiles is a lot!).

I'll now add the footpath reference from the official order (https://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/media/3766033/sb-confirmed-order.pdf) to make it easier to pick out why this changed.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53

Hi John,

I see you added a post box outside Costcutter, but used a slightly different tag than is usual. I think, but am not sure, that "letter box" is used for post deliveries & "post box" for Royal Mail ones.

I was going to change it, but just thought I'd check on my interpretation.

IN the original changeset you note it's on a stick and has an Elizabeth II cypher. We are nerdish enough to have tags for these (although the first is not directly supported in the editors: post_box:type=lamp and royal_cypher=EIIR.

Other things on postboxes (which may be irrelevant unless one is really into chasing them down) include precise times for the collection & the reference usually of the form SM5 ###[D} with boxes numbered sequentially within a postcode district. The early collection ones have a "D" afterwards.

Best wishes,

Jerry aka SK53