Hi, Just noticed your tweet. Brave man to be wading though rape at this time of year. I initially didn't realise that you are the 'original' Orston mapper. Thanks for cleaning up the NPE paths. If you know something is a PRoW can you mark them with designation tags? Also if you've looked at the things you can get rid of the NPE tags which, are, in effect, a fixme.

Cheers,

Jerry

Hi RIchard,

Oh great, you are fully aware of these. I think this was our worry.

I move them to old_fhrs:id, others might stick disused:fhrs:id. In general it's better to keep them in some form. The reason being is that often the FHRS was the only source of an address. I have a stash of extracts of Food Hygiene data going back to 2013 I really should get round to cleaning the data up & publishing it somewhere). Not infrequently they are useful for capturing the address when its former purpose was known (pubs especially). Note that we have noticed one or two LAs reusing FHRS identifiers which makes life very confusing.

However if you are just going through LAs systematically updating them then it probably doesnt matter. (You dont fancy helping me add addresses in Manchester btw: lots to do there).

Cheers,

Jerry

Yes, please DO NOT remove fhrs:id tags. These relate to Food Hygiene data and are used both for verification of data and for assessing progress of mapping on OSM. See for instance: https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/. In addition they also allow the actual scores on the doors to be retrieved by apps which may wish to do so.

Sorry for writing in English. I notice you use family_head=Fabaceae (e.g., on this tree row way/448798823), but a better tag would be taxon:family=Fabaceae. family_head actually is mainly used to denote the "paterfamilias" in Nepalese villages. The use of taxon for the author of the taxon is also not typical. Normally it is a synonym for species or used in conjunction when the tree is a particular type (cultivar) e.g., Robinia pseudoacacia 'Frisia'. A good place to see extensive use of these tags is the Vienna tree import.

Regards,

Jerry (aka SK53)

Sorry, I realise I didnt review the object history. Apologies

Sorry for writing in English. I notice you use family_head=Fabaceae, but a better tag would be taxon:family=Fabaceae. family_head actually is mainly used to denote the "paterfamilias" in Nepalese villages. The use of taxon for the author of the taxon is also not typical. Normally it is a synonym for species or used in conjunction when the tree is a particular type (cultivar) e.g., Robinia pseudoacacia 'Frisia'. A good place to see extensive use of these tags is the Vienna tree import.

Regards,

Jerry (aka SK53)

Many thanks. I can get in touch with the person who set-up the challenge instead of hassling you! Happy mapping.

In general I would support the wiki's advice on this re-tagging: "This tag is a refinement of power=station and power=sub_station and aims to replace these tags even though they are, at present, much more frequently used. Do not try to automatically change these tags. " (power=substation).

By the scope of these edits I doubt that you know if each site should be re-tagged as substation or transformer. If that is the case re-tagging removes the idea of the originators of the power=substation tag to discriminate between transformers & true sub-stations.

I didn't find the challenge with a quick look at Maproulette, so I'd appreciate a link to the instructions.

Have you verified that the maps on the West Gate Tunnel project are genuinely available with a licence suitable for OSM. I can find no licence statements on the website. It is normal practice in this case to assume that they contain copyright material and are not suitable for use in OSM. There are recent discussions on talk-au about how to request suitable waivers for the use of data of this kind for OSM.

Adding some detail around Charley Woods NR. Flash blocked me from typing anything at end of edit.

At a guess this is another Global Logic edit. See osm.org/user_blocks?page=4

Funnily enough I have the same problem with childcare for day nurseries because they may be either predominantly education or childcare facilities. OTOH I dont mind synonymy. I think a more significant problem with amenity=childcare is that many of the objects only have that as a tag: amenity=kindergarten is much more precise compared with that. I'm fine with the childcare=X tag, as I've been trying to separate out day nursery from nursery school.

Why did you delete this object way? 571062879

Did you actually look at the imagery used! These are small islets above the tideline which are hazardous to shipping. They were not previously on OSM because they are generally too small to be picked up by the imagery providers who clip to large coastlines.

Feel free to delete it. Getting imagery to display for these islets proved a bit tricky in Potlatch

Note that you used amenity=childcare on the day_nursery betwen Cropwell Butler & Tithby. Any particular reason for not sticking with kindergarten?

A belated welcome to OpenStreetMap.

I have a question because we are looking at the use of oneway=reversible and you used this on the B4038 when adding the speed limit. This looks to me to be a standard two-way road. Is that the case? If so we need to work on improving the options in the editor/

Thank you for these additions. I have added an extra tag to the village hall (amenity=community_hall), but the tag amenity=community_centre is also often used (and gets its own icon). I leave it to you which you think is most appropriate.

Thanks for your help,

Jerry (aka SK53)

Thanks: having spent a few minutes looking at the changes I suspected this was the case. In this case a more precise changeset comment would have saved us both the effort of these comments.

I realise these changes are relatively minor, perhaps that could be expressed in the changeset comment. Changes to several country nodes at once is often a sign of inappropriate edits.

Also, by the way, wikipedia is not usually an admissible source for edits to OpenStreetMap data: it allows extensive use of copyright sources and data compilations which would not be admissible directly in OSM.

Heatmap of Passing Places https://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/41035716242/in/photostream/

I would agree that all but the smallest villages should notionally be accessible by tertiaries, and have used it as a rule of thumb when looking at roads in the past: at the very least one road should be feasible for larger vehicles. As I said the two old OS maps + OS Streetview also provide another comparison point, but nothing really substitutes for a visit.

On a slightly separate point: adding passing places on the narrow country roads might also be useful to assist in identifying the unclassifieds vs tertiaries where no roads have white lines.