shop=appliance is fine here. I've updated the node.

(Given the wiki description for shop=appliance and the British English usage of the term "White Goods", this is likely to be true everywhere in the UK.)

Hi Mr-HW,

In this changeset, you added an AED: node/12438856002 .

Could I ask where you got the "defibrillator:location:en" value of "Centre Of Pond 107M From Dairy Farm Barn, Great Green 10M From NewRoad" from? If it's been taken from another dataset, who owns the copyright and do you have permission to use it in OSM?

Many thanks,
Robert.

Regarding the Definitive Map and Statement, both seem to show FP19 and FP34 as indicated by the GIS data that's shown in the overlay at https://osm.mathmos.net/prow/progress/norfolk/south-norfolk/wymondham/ .

Legally, even if the Definitive Map and Statement contain mistakes, they're still regarded as being "Definitive", i.e. any route shown on them is legally a Public Right of Way, until such time as the Map and Statement are modified. So even if the routes were supposed to have been removed, the fact that they haven't been means they legally still exist.

Actually though, I don't think there's any mistake. Typically, when a new road like the A11 is built, existing routes are cut. Sometimes additional links are added to help join things up (like Wymondham FP 33 in this case) but almost always the existing sections are left - even if some become dead ends.

The fact that the Statements for these paths show they were modified in October 2001 to take account of the A11 supports this idea.

I'm a bit surprised that when they altered the paths for the A11, they didn't add a link along the farmn access road to join osm.org/?mlat=52.55120&mlon=1.11870#map=16/52.55120/1.11870 to FP 19 . As this would allow a connection to FP33 over the new Park Lane bridge. Perhaps the intention was you'd be able to cross the A11 on foot west of Park Farm.

It's not clear to me whether it was the intention to allow crossings of the A11 between FP 18 and FP 34. Whether it was or not, I suspect the highway verges are too overgrown to be used now.

Hi sarukwa, I've just done a few edits in the area that might improve things. I've mapped Park Farm from aerial imagery. There's no sign of the path for FP34 from the imagery, and from what you wrote, it seems that there's nothing obvious on the ground either. The highway=path that was in OSM didn't follow the Definitive Line anyway, so I've adjusted it so it does. Given there doesn't seem to be a physical path, and it seems it's not actually used by anyone, I've also changed it to highway=no: way/904683329 .

Hi Thingummy, can I check the designation values you gave to way/123811168 and way/112062963 in this changeset?

"Restricted Bridleway" is not a type of route; did you mean "Public Bridleway" or "Restricted Byway" instead?

However, according to the official records from Cambridgeshire County Council, the route is currently neither of these. I did find an *application* for a Definitive Map Modification Order to add a Restricted Byway along this route: https://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/asset-library/imported-assets/M275-LH.pdf . But currently this is only an application, and the table at https://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/asset-library/imported-assets/DMMO-Register.pdf says that it's "awaiting investigation" so it's by no means certain that it will ever be added in the future.

We should only map what the current status is now. It's looks like that is undetermined, with assumed access rights for at least non-motorised traffic. I'd map it like that, with a note linking to the DMMO application.

In this changeset, it looks like you deleted two ways that record the official Definitive Line of some Public Rights of Way:
* way/653959382
* way/653959383

While these routes aren't physically present on the ground, it is useful for them to be recorded in OSM, to show where the official route that people are legally permitted to use goes, and that this route has been checked an found not to be present on the ground. It also helps avoid other mappers accidentally recording the physical route on the ground as a Public Right of Way.

I've therefore re-added the two ways above.

In general, I think mapping the pavements (sidewalks) separately is a better representation of reality, and allows for better pedestrian routing and tagging properties of the pavements. Sometimes it has to be done to capture what's on the ground, and then things look inconsistent if you don't do it fully in an area. If I recall correctly here, some of the paths round the cross-roads were already mapped separately here, but not all of them, so I completed some of the missing parts.

Could I check if you intended to remove the shop=trade tag from way/374420094 in this changeset? If so, what the current status of this branch?

Hi pjdebruin,

It's a bit difficult to tell from the OSM history information, but am I right in thinking that in this changeset, you removed part of the path along the river at osm.org/?mlat=52.305605&mlon=0.654126#map=17/52.305605/0.654126 and diverted it around the sewage treatment works?

The official route of the Public Footpath follows the rive there. So did you move the path on OSM because the riverside path is no longer accessible? Do you recall if there any official 'diversion' or 'path closed' signs on the ground?

Best wishes,
Robert.

Do you mean is sells books as well, or that it's called "Oxfam Music and Books" or both?

In this mapillary image from August 2023 it seems that the store is branded as "Oxfam Music": https://www.mapillary.com/app/?z=17.66803903824338&lat=50.901953070091395&lng=-1.4041352117228598&pKey=1297102577591494&focus=photo also the store website https://www.oxfam.org.uk/shops/oxfam-music-shop-southampton/ says it's an "Oxfam Music" store.

If those two datapoints are still valid, perhaps it should be mapped as "Oxfam Music" but with shop=music;books and a note to explain?

I've just found https://knaptonvillage.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Norfolk-County-Council-Quiet-Lanes.pdf . Page 11 suggests the off-road sections should be "links" rather than "Quiet Lanes"...

That's odd with the "Quiet Lane" - do you think the sign was a mistake by the council?

But regardless of that, surely it should be public_footpath, not public_footway in the designations there.

Could you check the designation tags you gave to way/1308417774 and way/1308417778 in this changeset? I suspect they should both be just designation=public_footpath, but currently one has designation=public_footway and the other has designation=public_footway;quiet_lane . Many thanks!

Oh yes, definitely. The location of the node I added is correct. I'm not sure why I didn't notice the existing postbox node when I added it. I've removed the duplicate now. Thanks for spotting that.

Hi Dotty1973,

In this changeset and other one made around the same time, you added two AEDs to OpenStreetMap, a few metres apart with similar descriptions:

* node/12222114701
* node/12222088001

I assume that there is actually only one AED outside the funeral directors here. Could you confirm this, and remove whichever one is in the wrong location?

Many thanks!

Hi Dotty1973,

In this changeset you added an AED: node/12229455301 with the location description "red sky right hand side building through car park into park into ".

The description doesn't make much sense to me, and from aerial imagery the mapped location of the AED in OSM doesn't appear to coincide with a building.

Could you check the description and location in OSM, and make any necessary changes?

Many thanks,
Robert.

For changes like this, which come from manual inspection of a number of objects from UK-wide analysis, I'm not sure it's desirable of very efficient to split the changeset into any smaller regions.

Could I ask why a country-wide changeset like this causes problems for you?

I think the Benchmarx "branches" are often concessions within a Travis Perkins store. I see there's a Travis Perkins mapped on that Business Park, so the Benchmarx well be in there now.

Could you double-check if the Defib node/11491689005 that you edited in this changeset is actually located in the right place?

It would be unusual for an AED to be on a private house like this, and I can't see one there on recent Mapillary images: e.g. https://www.mapillary.com/app/?z=18&lat=55.80972809999997&lng=-3.201136799999972&pKey=291783910653273&focus=photo&x=0.4997069832836588&y=0.6173899694651247&zoom=0 .

Perhaps the location has been mistaken for the one at the village hall a few meters down the road: node/10568780515 ?

Hi stsquad. In this changeset, you added a convenience store with the name "Morrisons Fault". I've not come across this name before. Is this store here perhaps a "Morrisons Daily" instead?