Hi,

Could you check the location where you placed the AED node/13362246001 in this changeset?

You've given it the description "AED , at Royal Oak, Laxfield , IP13 8DH", but you positioned the node outside the King's Head pub on the other side of the churchyard.

Could you also add a bit more detail to the description, e.g. is the AED inside or outside the pub, is it on a wall and if so which one?

Yes I agree, but it wasn't my change that added the AED while leaving the amenity=telephone in place.

I think there are some AEDs in still-in-use phone boxes, so I wouldn't recommend automatically re-tagging these as disused:amenity=telephone.

The "old phone box" in the defibrillator:location tag in this case is suggestive, but it would probably be better to check with the editor who added the AED. ("old" could mean "old-fashioned" rather than "disused".)

This isn't an isolated issue though, as you can see from the list that my AED tool produces at https://osm.mathmos.net/defib/osm-amenity.html

Yes, Tag:shop=trade + trade=building_supplies is equivalent here. I've updated the tags.

Hi Phoebe,

Many thanks for adding an AED to the map at node/13333614301

Is there any chance you could provide a better location description though? I assume that the "bn124ee" is supposed to be the postcode "BN12 4EE", but it would be better if you could add a human readable description of where the AED is located, to help someone standing nearby know how to find it.

Many thanks!

Hi ,

Could you check the location that you've given to the AED node node/13341548901 ? At the moment it's placed inside a house. Is it really located there? Also, could you give a better location description than "41 priory road", perhaps saying where in/on/near that house it's located?

Many thanks!

Hi Emma,

In this changeset you added the defibrillator node/13301610801 , and gave it the location description "Sa726qx". This looks like it might be the Postcode "SA72 6QX". If it is a postcode, then it shouldn't be in the location field. (The location field is for a human-readable description telling someone on the ground where to find the AED.) But this postcode doesn't match the location of the AED. So I'm wondering if something else is wrong here too.

I would have been just going by the previous mapper who changed disused=doityourself to disused:shop=doityourself indicating that it has closed. I then just tidied up the rest of the tags that they'd missed.

Yes, but arguably the hospice covers the grounds as well. And if you want to know the address of the hospice you need to tag the address on the hospice object. If you want to tag a delivery point, then we probably need a separate object for that.

What do you do for e.g. a large University campus? You wouldn't just put the address on the post room / good in (for deliveries) or the main reception (for visitors) ? But it would be good if you could somehow indicate that that's the place to deliver things or turn up to in person for that address.

Hi Adrian,

Are you sure the AED you added at node/13142770902 is in the right place on the map? From Bing aerial imagrey, it looks like you've place the node in the middle of a hedge, rather than on a fence.

Hi there AED123,

In this changeset and two others just before it, you appear to have added three different AEDs all within a few metres of each other:

* node/13123190301
* node/13123179802
* node/13123191101

The all say they're outdoors, but two of them are located inside already mapped houses. One as a location description of "Lark Lane", but the road here is "Town Lane". The others include a postcode "L17 8UW" which corresponds with a "Lark Lane", that is on the other side of the Mersey.

Are there any AEDs located here, let alone three?

If you're added AEDs using AED Map, please check the location carefully. Also, could you provide a more informative location description, ideally something that would allow someone on the ground within a few hundred meters to be able to find it without referring to a map.

Best wishes,
Robert.

Just to check, since the end date has now passed, can the conditional maxweight tag on way/58719849 be removed altogether now:

maxweight:conditional = 3 tonne @ (2018 Aug-2023 Oct 30)

Or should we check if any other restriction is now in force?

As I understand it, in OSM terms a Biergarten is a self-contained entity and an amenity/business in its own right. Whereas the beer garden here is just an outdoor seating area that's part of the adjacent amenity=pub.

In this changeset, you added shop=vacant to node/9190174887 but left it tagged with healthcare=vaccination_centre .

Has the Vaccination Centre closed? If so, the healthcare=* and related tags should be removed.

Hi Tom.

In this changeset you created the AED node/13062335401 at this location: osm.org/?mlat=51.15897&mlon=-3.32834#map=14/51.15897/-3.32834

This location looks to be in the middle of nowhere, and not consistent with the description you left of "the cart house West Lyng TA3 5AP".

Could you check the location, and correct it if it is wrong?

Many thanks,
Robert.

In the case of "Pauls Social Club", my tool show's a Circuit registered AED located at the nearby playground (blue circle), but not one mapped in OSM on the club building (red circle): https://osm.mathmos.net/defib/progress/IP/#18/52.04612/1.13942

From the description in the Circuit (click on the blue circle on the map) it would appear that this is a separate location to the AED mapped in OSM.

But the Circuit entries are registered by someone looking after each AED, so they almost certainly exist somewhere on the ground, although the locations can be a bit off. So if there isn't a second AED at the play area, it's likely the Circuit entry is the one at "Pauls Social Club", and who-ever registered it accepted an auto-generated description without checking it was accurate.

The tool I've developed at https://osm.mathmos.net/defib/progress to compare the Circuit data with that in OSM, is possibly outside the terms of use for the Circuit Data at https://www.bhf.org.uk/defibdata , so I've checked explicitly with the people from The Circuit that they're ok with me doing it. I also got specific permission for OSM editors to add the Circuit UUIDs to OSM. (Unless data is already licenced under an OSM-compatiable licence such permission would be needed to add any third-party data to OSM because of copyright/database rights.)

The permission I've got covers any OSM mappers adding the UUIDs to OSM, either by using my tool or downloading the data themselves.

The Circuit provides a monthly data download, and I've got permission from them to add the refs to OSM. I've built a tool to compare and match between the two datasets at https://osm.mathmos.net/defib/progress/ .

Hi JDunlop,

In this changeset you added a defibrillator using the "AED Map" app:
node/12772176801

The location description you gave it says "AED located outside newtons off licence". But you actually placed the AED about 25m away in the middle of a grassy area on the other side of a postbox.

Do you remember exactly where the AED is located here? Is it on the wall of the shop for example? Would you be able to provide a more detailed location description and/or update the location?

Many thanks,
Robert.

Hi Fmed,

In this changeset you added a Defibrillator using the "AED Map" app:
node/12152153401

The location description you gave it was "Baldock train station", but you seem to have placed the AED inside a neighbouring building rather than somewhere at the station.

Do you remember where the AED at the station is? Can you provide a more detailed description and/or improve the location accuracy?

Oops. Thanks for spotting that. It looks like a paste error in JOSM. Now fixed. The addr:postcode tag was the correct one.