Hey there -what's the source you're using for the names of the bus stops? In some instances you're changing abbreviated Street names to spelled out, in others you're changing spelled out to abbreviated, in yet others you're removing the Ave/Ln/Dr/St/whatever alltogether, so I'm wondering what the source or logic is you're following. Most of these stops aren't even listed on the pace schedule pdfs...

Thanks!

Hello,
what's the source for the Bucky's convenience store on IL59 and 75th (node/117099900) rebranding to MobilMart? The signage on the store says Bucky's (and it's been like that for at least several years).

There's more issues with this changeset:
- The parks you retagged as nature reserves (Foxhill Greens, Forest View, Arrowhead, Fredehagen, William Friedrich, Central, ...)...why? None of them are nature reserves.
- The Physicians and Dentists shelter along Eagle St. - why trash the name? That's literally how it is called.
- Also, what's the reason for moving the traffic lights on the Intersection of Aurora Rd and IL59? They were fine the way they were for an intersection of two dual carriageways. Now it looks like there's two lights in each direction?!

Hello,

what's the source for the Huntington ATM (node/8931845992) moving into the Jewel? Last time I checked this was a drive-thru ATM in the parking lot...that may have changed, but the two imagery sources you listed both show it in the parking lot too, hence the question.

Thanks,

No worries, all good. I restored the old building and then replaced its (sloppy) shape with the (much better) one you drew, so we have the best of both worlds now :).

partially reverted in 116689104 to bring the building back; and replaced geometry with the (undoubtedly much more precise) geometry from 16509100

Hey there - please, please, please don't do that. Deleting an object just to recreate it trashes its history. Also, this got rid of all the tagging on the building (address and stuff).

In this specific case, stuff that's glued together but shouldn't be can be easily separated using the disconnect feature in iD/RapiD (left click the point/node that connects the two object that need to be separated, then right click or hit space bar to open the context menu and chose "Disconnect" from the context menu).

Thank you!

Here's some further info: osm.wiki/Keep_the_history

Hey there - can you explain why the right turn was removed from the point in the middle of the intersection? The right turn traffic has to use the slip lane, and you can't (legally) turn right from the through lanes, no?

Hey there - any route relation in particular you have in mind? If you have an example I'll be more than happy to look into what happened.
I fixed the 59 relation which was quite messed up, but didn't review all other relations that may have shared points/segments with 59.
I still have some portions of IL59 left to lane-tag (further north); and I'm planning on doing the same thing for all IL state highways, including reviewing the relations themselves (I only did a handful of the shorter state highways so far, it can be quite tedious).

I'm not sparse editing though, I usually just download rather narrow rectangles along the route, mostly because I want to see a couple feet left and right - to do the lane tags on the first couple of segments of the crossing roads at major intersections too, and also to do turn restrictions and traffic lights where possible (also, the machine I am typically working on is powerful enough for sparse queries to not be nexessary for these types of edits most of the time).

Hey...couple of questions on this one:
- what's the thought behind tagging the fairways on golfcourses as landuse=grass (the wiki* says not to do that)? Tagging for the renderer of some sorts? Or was that inadvertent? Same question on the Tees and Greens (although these are not explicitly being mentioned on the wiki page).

- I believe a big chunk of the building on the SW corner of 103rd and 59 is some sort of medical offices (something Dupage Medical Group, if I remember correctly, not sure what exactly, and, I believe, a pediatrist's office also on the north side of the bldg). Are you sure this whole building should be building=retail just bc there's a liquor store on the back side?

-Same thought on the bldg on the SW corner of Rollingridge and 59 - mostly medical offices, I believe. building=retail just sounds super random for those. What is being sold there?

- what's the deal with the pool-inside-of-a-pool situation in Bristol Station? The actual pool was tagged fine, and the fenced-in area surrounding it isn't a pool...

- What's the reason for changing building=fire_station to building=public on Nap Fire Dep Station 4? building=fire_station is valid, and way more specific...
Are you aware of the differences** between building=fire_station and amenity=fire_station? One is the grounds, the other is the building, they do not represent the same thing. What you created is a fire station (amenity) within a fire station (amenity), but without an actual fire station building - that's definitely not what's on the ground.

- What's the thought behind removing crossing=zebra (on Conan Doyle Rd)***?

Thanks,

* leisure=golf_course

** building=fire_station

*** crossing=zebra

Hey there - first of all: welcome!
I just saw your changes around 75th and Hunters Wood - thanks for your contribution.
I made a couple of small changes - mostly relating to names on service roads. We don't typically tag these with the name of the business they belong to (e.g. the service road that is the McDonald's Drive in isn't actually called "McDonald's" - the restaurant is).

If you haven't seen it yet, the wiki* has tons of information on recommended tagging and is a good starting point for additional information if you're not sure how to tag something.

If you need help or have any questions, please feel free to message me anytime.

Thanks again,

* osm.wiki/Main_Page

Ah, nevermind, I didn't look at this right, I was referring to the other exit a little further west. All good.

Hi - are you sure there actually is a no left turn restriction from the parking lot into 111th?
Last time I was in the area, turning left into 111th was allowed, and in fact, that little access road was two lanes (one of them being a left turn lane). This may have changed recently, I haven't been there in ~1 month, so wanted to confirm.
Thanks!

Spam. Reverted in changeset/112306465

Spam. reverted in changeset/112306412

Those multi-building scenarios kind of sound like a textbook example for a multipoly, no?
Although that isn't how they're mapped in most places, I don't think. Gas stations are often like that...and many of them appear to be mapped as two separate objects, typically one with amenity=fuel+building=roof and the other with building=retail+shop=convenience. Not completely wrong IMHO, but not 100% clean either, since "the speedway at the intersection of x and y" feels more like one entity that happens to be both, a gas station + convenience store.

No worries; thanks for verifying. Just fixed it.

Hi - thanks for the explanation.

I guess you have a point about the outdoor areas - I suppose it would be *technically* correct to tag the outdoor area/patio/whatever separately from the bldg, and then create a relation and tag that rel as a store/restaurant/whatever.

Entity continuity is a matter of perspective, I guess... like you said, having the poi separate from the building makes it very easy to answer questions like "did this business move". In theory, that is. Practically, the decision whether "business xzy moved from A to B" or "business xyz closed store A and opened a new location B a couple months later " often requires inside knowledge of how that business is organized. It's probably fair to make an educated guess for the mom&pop shop moving across the street; but how do you know if the gas station/pharmacy/grocery store closing in one spot and reopening two intersections farther north is actually the same store reopening in a different location or not?
Also, what you gain in continuity on the poi is what you lose on the building (for questions such as "What store was in this bldg before?")

I 100% agree with the (strip) malls - where there's one building, we shouldn't be mapping multiple ones just to separate the stores.
What I've started doing in these cases is to map the building as one large poly, and then add multiple smaller polys within that (sharing nodes with the bldg itself around the outer perimeter) for the individual stores. (Each of the stores is, of course, not tagged as a bldg).
To me, that appeared to be a fair compromise that doesn't split buildings when they really shouldn't be; while it preserves the information about each store's area/size.
I mapped the majority of Chicago Premium Outlets up in Aurora this way in case you're interested in an example - it seems to work quite nice.
It also comes with a neat side effect - it makes it quite easy to see whether businesses are missing in a shopping center/(strip) mall - that's much harder with node-only POIs.

Perhaps that would be an acceptable approach for you as well (1:1 buildings = combined store+bldg tagging on one polygon; multiple businesses in one bldg = separate polys for each store + one surrounding poly for the bldg)?

I've seen many cases where people would change it the exact opposite way (merge the POI into the bldg) - not just around here (I'm sure you noticed this area is pretty much dead), but in general. I'm not sure that achieving anything that's even close to being consistent is really realistic (not as long as there isn't clear consensus that one approach is preferred over the other anyway). Just sounds like everyone keeps everyone else busy.

Thanks,

are you sure that the whole shopping ctr is unit 123 (including the petsmart, tjmaxx, great clips and liza nail spa)?

Hello,
what's the benefit of detaching the shops from their buildings by making them all separate one-node POIs?
It would seem that there's multiple drawbacks to this approach, especially where there's a 1:1 relationship between bldg and store (duplicate/redundant addresses; loss of information how much of the building is actually being used by that particular store), so I'd be curious to understand what the motivation is for these changes...

Thanks!