Why are you keep deleting the name:ar for this node?
https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/node/2488229258
The correct name is "باش تبة " please restore it.
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>Yes, I am a member of the Neshan team.
-Then state that in your profile bio and on the team wiki page so people know. You need to do this ASAP.

Please read these notes so you have more understanding of Iraq to map better:


1: Most of the sources you're using are wrong or not reliable, unfortunately.

A\ you added names for residential streets, all of them are wrong, in Iraq, we don't have text names for residential roads, we have alley numbers, not names.
See this: https://bio.je/314-63 this is a sign for a road that says this road is alley 63 of district 314 of Adamiyah neighborhood, this is standard for all of Iraq, except the Kurdistan region up north which has a different style of signs but have the same meaning, for example, https://bio.je/105-8 it says alley 8 of district 105 of The Arab neighborhood. We, in Iraq, map residential roads like XXX-XX which X is a number for example the first road would be name=314-63 and the second one name=105-8, we must include the district number too because we can't add only the alley number as that will make a whole mess and not findable roads.
The names you added for residential roads are like for example "MUHAMMED sab street" which Muhammed added himself (not you, just an example) he added such a name for his home's street. We can't have personal residents' names on their home street addresses, this will start a mess cause each one will want to add his name to the map, etc... You must add the correct name which is in the XXX-XX format.

B\ You added 'name' tag for primary main streets in Iraq but the names you're adding are in Persian, not Arabic, This is a problem.
Since your app is for Iranian users, it's mostly used by tourists who visit Iraq and want an offline map. They added the names in Persian and you just copy the Persian name to 'name' tag. You used Persian alphabet letters which are not used by the Iraqis, you can't use them in 'name' tag, if you're typing it yourself, then you need to have Arabic:Iraq keyboard in your computer to type the names with.

2- Don't merge roads in Iraq without local knowledge. Primary roads and residential roads might not have the same name as the whole street, like half of the street is called X and the other half called Y.

Please remove all the text 'name' tags for the residential roads that you added. and fix the 'name' tags you added for the main primary roads and make it in Arabic not Persian.
If you can't do this, let me know and I will do it myself for you for your previous edits, but you need to be more cautious for your future edits and consider the things that I told you.
Also, please don't assume things, like the oneway tag you removed and restored after I told you it was correct.
Don't delete roads that are not present in Bing satellite imagery, as it's not recent, You need to see Maxar, this is not you, but your team members were deleting new roads that are still not visible in bing maps but visible in Maxar.
Please forward this to your colleague in your team too.

You need to look and see all the comments that were left on your changesets, when people ask you, answer them.
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=16905710

I would appreciate it if you and your team put #Neshan in the changeset comments so people know this edit by a team, your team is doing this for Iran but not Iraq, do this to Iraq too.

If you need any help, you or your team, can reach by and send a message if you want help with something.

Regards.

Why did you delete name:ar for many nodes in this changeset?
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Hello again, why did you delete node/8942835917? now no one can find the resort when they search for it...

Hello ڕاستی, please, use Arabic Language and Arabic alphabet for name:ar, you're writing it with Kurdish alphabet, Arabic readers can read it yes since Kurdish and Arabic is so similar just like the English readers can read words in Espanish. Now since you changed the Arabic name, Arabic users will not find this subdistrict if they search for it. Please, Please, I've told you this many times before, just be careful with name:ar, don't remove it or put any Kurdish letters in it... Please read my other comments to you here: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4800812
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Why did you remove name:ar from the nodes? it was correct! can you explain why?
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I asked simple questions since you said "you can't change the definition" tell me, what definition that I am changing? and where it was written, where does it say "it's generally used when there are several alternative spellings (or forms) for the same language."?

I've read the wiki, and it doesn't say a such thing for alt_name. so please show me where this rule came from that 'alt_name' should be in the 'name' tag language only.

If you believe that 'alt_name' should only be in the language of 'name' tag then propose that and you can start here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

finally, here in OSM, we assume goodwill, using such words is not nice, please refrain from using these terms and accusations.

Best regards...

>"it's generally used when there are several alternative spellings (or forms) for the same language."
-Can you please show me where it says that in the wiki?

>"you can't change the definition"
-What definition you're referring to that say "'alt_name' should be in the same language as 'name' tag"?

The official definition says:
"This tag can be used when a street, river or any other feature has another common name but there is some other alternative form."
alt_name=*

Let's take a look at examples of how this mapped around the world, I randomly picked 5 examples for you where 'name' and 'alt_name' are not just in different languages, but a different alphabet too:
way/265619988
node/3014281108
relation/3395130
node/293911735
node/276850140

Hi, can you tell me why did you delete ‘alt_name’?
You added ‘alt_name:ar’ which is correct but why did you delete ‘alt_name’?
In all of the Kurdistan region the I believe should be in Central Kurdish and the alt_name should be in Arabic since it’s the official language in Federal government.

I have fixed the name:ar now for this village and restored the correct alt_name that you deleted too, please don't remove Arabic names again.

Hello, again, please use Arabic for name:ar not Kurdish, Kurdish is for name:ckb not name:ar...
The name was "سيكانيان" and you put it as "سێکانیان" which is kurdish.
Please read what the DWG had told you in osm.org/user_blocks/6298

Hi Lamassu, I honestly don’t know anything about him, the names I put you can see them in Wikidata too. If they’re wrong please edit the names to the correct ones. Thank you dear friend.

Please answer my first question here.
What is your source? What map are you copying from? And are you a part of Iranian Neshan team?

Also, why did you remove the oneway tag from way/47761935? it was correct lawfully, in Iraq if there is a road that have 4 ways, 2 main and 2 secondary on the side, that means two ways to go and two ways to return.
You put "knowledge" as your source but you don't have any knowledge in Iraq's highway system!

Hello, Why are you putting name with Persian letters instead of Arabic for the name tags?
You added 7 residential road names, what is your sources? in Iraq all residential roads do not have a name, instead they have a district and an alley number, what is the source of the names you put?
From what map are you copying?

What is your source for way/851275184 and way/455334759 ? and why did you put the 'name' tag for them with Persian letters instead of Arabic?

What is your source please?
You are part of Neshan team right? which is from Iran, another country, how can you have knowledge in street names?
Please define the source of these names.
And add the team/group name to your profile.

Hi, yes, I was correcting the relation of the monument, I did 5-ish revisions I guess until it become right so the 3rd shape view and render correctly without errors. I didn't notice your previous edits, so thanks for adding it back again. Please if you know the correct name:fa for other monuments in Baghdad, add them too as there is no name:fa in wikidata for me to add. Regards.

The current 'name:ar' is "کانی کەند" which is not in Arabic but in Kurdish, and even if people who speak Arabic, which is Arabs wanted to search for this village, they can't type the name because the 6th letter is a Kurdish one and not available in an standard Arabic keyboard.

@SomeoneElse, this: https://osm.mapki.com/history/node/2488271706 Currently there is no Arabic text for the village, so if people search for it in Arabic they won't find it. I will revert the name:ar tag to pervious state later today.