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155702976 over 1 year ago

Please use good changeset comment. (no comment) do not explain what did you edit or why, thus you will waste other mappers time just to try and understand your edits. Please add good changeset comments to your future edits.

155689987 over 1 year ago

I just suggest that we just leave changing languages on 'name' tags here in this town to the local mappers. If they want to change the languages, they change the languages themselves. Thank you for your understanding my friend.

155689987 over 1 year ago

Also, in this changeset I see you changed the name "library" from Arabic to Kurdish too in node/4485653493.
You should've deleted the Arabic name instead of translating it to Kurdish, as it's a descriptive name, not an actual name of the library. The library node is already tagged as amenity=library and there is no need to have name=library too.
node/4485653493/history

155689987 over 1 year ago

Dear friend, First of all, we are talking about the street names, which shall be sourced from the street signs, or by asking the locals and use it in the local spoken language. Here you just translated the names from Arabic to Kurdish, without surveying, which is wrong in my opinion and that is why I'm here commenting.
The last time there were street signs here it was purely Arabic and English, and unfortunately those signs were long gone after the war, mostly stolen by the scrap metal theft when it was a chaos.
About the signs that is on some of the building that you sent you are doing is called cherry picking. you are picking what you like, and knowingly ignoring the ones you don't like. And also you know these signs were hanged by a Kurdish political party, the PUK. So please, just don't do any of that as it look way too political and such things shall not be conflicted here.
Regards.

155689987 over 1 year ago

Since there is no signs, we shall add the names how the local people say it in the spoken language. The people of the Town speaks mainly Arabic. And the 'name' tags inside this town shall be according to that, Which follows the on-ground rule. If there is a shop for example that has the banner in Kurdish only, or mainly, it shall be put in 'name' no problem, but if there were no signs, we use the local spoken language.

The town of Kifri is mixed between Arabic, Turkemen and Kurds, previously Jewish too, that doesn't mean that each ethnic group in this town speak it's own language, as you know many parts of Iraq the Kurds speak only Arabic, but here in Kifri, it's mainly or mostly Arabic.

The town is part of Diyala Governorate by law, it is not part of the Kurdish region, therefore it shall be mapped according to the legislation of administration of Diyala Governorate.
The Mayor of the town is Sahir Ali Jasim, which he is an Arab, and appointed by Diyala governor.

If you are a Kurd and you go to the town of Kifri, they will speak with you in Kurdish, if you were Arab, They will speak with you in Arabic. It is that simple.

About the links you sent, I shall inform you dear that Facebook, YouTube and Google Maps shall never be used as a source for mapping in OSM, it can be used in a comment to validate a point in discussion I guess yes, but never in mapping or tracing etc..
Google Maps, shows you the names of object in your language, the one you are using in your device thus it will show you in Kurdish.
Since you mentioned Google Maps, I will give you examples from it. The main name of the Town in Google maps in Arabic, you can use VPN and change to any foreign language and you will see that Google say the Arabic name under it, which indicate the local language. See: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ajSA82kGWpx46Jhj8
See this screenshot https://i.ibb.co/mCfPYtH/image.png , if you selected any language, it will say the name of the town in that language and under that it will show the local name in Arabic. But if you have the language in Arabic, it will not show you any other languages.

Another thing worth mentioning, the people of this town chant in Arabic with Arabic signs when they protest, see: https://youtu.be/cxZXxo3Ddd8

I suggest not changing the value of 'name' tag from languages to another in Areas you are not part of, and maybe stick to your town in Kalar, Kalar speak mostly Kurdish and there is no problem to use that in your town, but do not force it in Other towns my friend.

Regards.

155689987 over 1 year ago

Why did you changed all the values of names from Arabic to Kurdish?
What is the source for each change? Please provide pictures of the signs if there is signs that is purely Kurdish only.

155636705 over 1 year ago

Please stop this vandalistic behavior. I still do not understand why you want to remove a neighborhood node https://osm.mapki.com/history/node/11629870960 from the map when it exists on the ground. This is pure vandalism, please stop this. You are engaging in an edit war with all of the local mappers from Baghdad, BaghdadiMapper, Yousif Isam, aseele, and me. You keep deleting it and calling everyone a sockpuppet, which is not acceptable behavior. I will revert this changeset, and I hope you refrain from making such edits in the future.

155585813 over 1 year ago

Hi zhiar590, Thank you for your reply. happy mapping :)

155632554 over 1 year ago

Abdullah Abbas, I had left you many comments, yet you refuse to reply.
You shall not put a name that is not used as the name. The name you are adding as name is not used by locals, and all the people refer it by Saif Saad, not the name you are changing into. please stop this. You can have the the other name as alt but not as the main.

155632527 over 1 year ago

Abdullah Abbas, I had left you many comments, yet you refuse to reply.
You shall not put a name that is not used as the name. The name you are adding as name is not used by locals, and all the people refer it by Shuhada Saif Saad, not the name you are changing into. please stop this. You can have the the other name as alt but not as the main.

155614907 over 1 year ago

Hi Abdullah Abbas, Please do not change the names of the neighborhoods from a well known name used by locals for tens of years to an alt name that is not used by the locals, I had restored the name you deleted entirely and moved the name you added to alt_name.
Regards.

155614815 over 1 year ago

Hi Abdullah Abbas, Please do not change the names of the neighborhoods from a well known name used by locals for tens of years to an alt name that is not used by the locals, I had restored the name you deleted entirely and moved the name you added to alt_name.
Regards.

155613585 over 1 year ago

Hello abdullah, Please mention in your profile bio that this account is an alt account to your main osm account: @Abdullah%20Abbas

155614684 over 1 year ago

Please do not add a neighborhood name on the landuse like this. the name of the neighborhoods shall be on the place=* node.

155614770 over 1 year ago

Please do not add a neighborhood name on the landuse like this. the name of the neighborhoods shall be on the place=* node.

155627967 over 1 year ago

What did you edit here? why you removed all of those?
Please write a good changeset comment in future.

155418916 over 1 year ago

those addr:housenumber=* nodes are not duplicates. While they do have the same house number 4, and they are close by each other, but one is located at the Zuqaq street which is the alley, and one located at the main street. See the addr:street=* tag next time before deleting any addr:housenumber=* node. see https://i.ibb.co/2dR2D05/image.png

About the generator, there is two, one next to the other. You assumed it's duplicated and deleted it without seeing or knowing the area. Please do not delete stuff based on your assumptions as it's bad practice.

Please read osm.wiki/Good_practice before mapping/editing again.

Regards.

149454556 over 1 year ago

Hello zhiar590,
Why did you changed the name from Arabic to Kurdish and removed the Arabic name entirely from osm?
way/323152216/history
And way/323276241/history

155516230 over 1 year ago

This changeset has been reverted and the changeset comment is Revert changeset/155516230 when a user added a "aerodrome" in an empty dirt land that is used temporarily as a helipad. temporarily objects shall not be mapped.

155438550 over 1 year ago

Why did you did that?
The road is not a dead end!
see Esri World Imagery (Clarity) Beta
You are mapping based on assumptions, please don't do that.
Regards.