Jao nisam siguran, toga ima i po Divcibarama i drugim planinama. Ja sam ostavljao, smor je sto se planinarske staze ne vide na osnovnom layer - u pa onda verovatno zato ljudi dodaju u name. Neki zakljucak bi bio da nemam stav.

Pozdrav,
Video sam da si planinarsku stazu relation/12481140#map=17/44.126366/19.828960 prebacio sa way/919082596 na way/919082594 . Koji je razlog za tu promenu?

Pozdrav, primetio sam da si dodao smoking tag na node/12179126687 , koja je namena ovog taga na adresi?

ne moras, meni to ima smisla da mozes nadjes sve poi koji su unutar centra bez nekog komplikovanog overpasa nego nisam. naleteo do sada na to. potrudicu se da ih dodajem u relacije ako vidim da ima.

hej hej, sredjujem nesto po Merkatoru pa sam naisao da su svi POI unutar merkatora u relaciji relation/9749877 Nisam naisao na tu foru do sada, na osnovu cega si ovako mapirao?

Pozdrav,

Vezano za node/8468815416 deluje mi da bi brand i name trebali da budu "Banca Intesa" banka se tako brendira a i vecina objekata u Srbiji je tako označena?

Hej hej vezano za ovo node/3176694507 . Dodat je brand "Sale", neki finski lanac prodavnica, pa samo da potvrdim da je greska.

Pozdrav,
Vanja

Поздрав,

Заменио сам way/1324950119/history/1 са node/12522249691 што више одговара столовима са шаховском таблом. Јави уколико се не слажеш.

Не знам да ли си активан / на унутар OSM заједнице Србије, шаљем пар линкова у случају да ниси. Званични сајт [1]. Форум [2] је одлично место за праћење активности и размену идеја. За мање формалне дискусије користимо Telegram групу корисника из Србије “osm_sr” [3]. Поред форума и Telegram групе постоји и званична мејлинг листа [4]. Кратак преглед стандарда за мапирање најбитнијих објеката можеш видети на [5]. Више о пријектима у којима учествује ОСМ заједница у Србији можеш видети на [6]. Билтен [7] је место где покушавамо да објединимо сва дешавања у месецу.

[1] osm.wiki/Serbia/Projekti/Održavanje_pešačkih_staza_Srbije
[2] https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=12433999
[3] route=hiking, део Elements of a relation

[1] https://openstreetmap.rs
[2] https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/rs
[3] https://t.me/osm_sr
[4] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-rs
[5] osm.wiki/Serbia/Mapping_Serbia
[6] osm.wiki/Serbia/Projekti
[7] osm.wiki/Serbia/Projekti/Bilten

Срдачан поздрав,
Вања

Hej hej, otkrio sada kids_area ( u toj sam fazi :) ). Vidim da si ovde ( way/466141571 ) dodao kids_area = no i kids_area:outdoor yes . Nekako mi iz opisa kids_area=* deluje da ako ima kids_area = yes onda se sa kids_area:outdoor yes pojasnjava da li je unutrasnje ili spoljasnje.

Just wanted to double check is node/279176421 duplicate of way/54106930 ?

Dogovor, javljaj a javim i ja ako odem pre :)

Hej hej, sredjujem dataset za staze.pss.rs pa sam naleteo da se ova staza razlikuje od gpx traga koji ima PSS. Samo da proverim sa tobom da li se secas da li ovde gde je izmena postoje planinarske markacije koje prate izmenjen put, drugim recima da li je planinarske markacije idu crvenom linijom?

https://vanjakom.github.io/osm-pss-integration/dataset/staze-pss-rs-diff/3-22-5.html#map=18/20.006878674030308/44.11399239511103

plava - gpx trag koji ima PSS
zelena - kako je bilo mapirano u prethodnoj verziji
crvena - nova verzija

Pozdrav,

Samo da javim da sam sredio malo tagove za node/8947011718
sklonio sam name, posto se ime ne odnosi na pojedinacno stablo vec na vrstu. Takodje pomerio sam wikipedia tagove u odgovarajuce species:wikidata / species:wikipedia prema osm.wiki/Key%3Aspecies%3Awikidata . Javljaj ako se ne slazes nesto.

Srecno mapiranje!
Vanja

Hi Stadtigel,

Unfortunately this is not how name tag is used in Serbia. We use cyrillic and provided name is official name of route defined by PSS ( Mountaineering association of Serbia ). I can set int_name ( osm.wiki/Names ) which best describes your use case?

Best,
Vanja

Hi Stadtigel,

I was more attracted with next sentence from url=*:
"So it is advised not to use this tag when more specific alternatives are available such as website=* ..." and we have website tag but for now I'm ok with leaving link to wiki in url instead of note. Later we can change that if needed.

Once more thanks for feedback and time spent on this discussion.

Best,
Vanja

Pozdrav,

Ja sam Vanja i aktivan sam maper OSM zajednice u Srbiji. Takodje, clan sam Komisije za planinarske terene Planinarskog saveza Srbije ( PSS ) i radim na povezivanju Registra terena PSS sa OSM unutar projekata osm.wiki/Serbia/Projekti/PSS_staze i osm.wiki/Serbia/Projekti/Odrzavanje_pesackih_staza_Srbije .

Primetio sam da si menjao puteve na Suvoj planini, cimam te vezano za way/1204757415 , nekada ranije je bio spojen sa way/821450481 i formirali su planinarsku stazu relation/11258277 . Da li je ovo greska ili putevi stvarno nisu spojeni? Takodje, da li si primetio planinarske markacije na tom delu? Hteo sam da proverim prvo sa tobom pre nego cimam planinarsko drustvo koje odrzava stazu.

Srdacan pozdrav,
Komadinovic Vanja

Note for tracking problematic part of path near Ilino:
note/4030903

Hi Stadtigel,

Once more thank you for you detailed response and insights provided.

Name of relation is official name, created by Mountaineering association of Serbia ( PSS ) when sections for E4 were defined, and those names are reported to ERA. I will double check with clubs if start of section is missing or it will be covered by E4-10 ( https://pss.rs/terenipp/vratna-krivelj/ ) and mark complete = no if that's case. But if you do not object I would change name back since this is official name.

Regarding using url, I know that it's sometimes more useful but that's one of OSM rules, do not map for render. Description of url tag ( url=* ) clearly defines usage and we have website tag set with official PSS website. Note tag ( note=* ) on the other hand is exactly what wiki is describing. If you do not object I would change tag from url to note.

Regarding problematic part around Ilino village, I will open internal dispute with your feedback and open OSM note.

Best,
Vanja

Hi Stadtigel,

It's me again :) I'm, as you can imagine, interested in changes of E4, section 11 ( relation/14206054 ).

I saw you changed name. I'm using official Mountain Engineering Association ( PSS ) names for this section of E4 ( https://pss.rs/terenipp/krivelj-soko-banja/ ). You can also find more information on https://pss.rs/planinarski-objekti-i-tereni/tereni/?tip=evropski-pesacki-putevi-u-srbiji . Would you be ok with me changing names back to original ones?

I saw you added wiki I created about mapping E paths in Serbia under url tag, is it ok to change it to note tag? Also, do you thing it would be good idea to add it to other sections of E paths in Serbia, is it useful?

I saw you changed geometry also, probably based on your recent visit. I'm intereseted in removed paths around Ilino village ( relation/14206054#map=15/43.7933/21.9547 ) Does that mean that you were unable to navigate there? I would like to contact club that should be maintaining that section and would appreciate more information? Around what time you visited region?

Thanks in advance,
Vanja

Hi Stadtigel,

Thanks for informative response.

I will contact club which is maintaining trail and double check with them problematic part of trail since you recently visited it. I propose we leave it as is for now ( per your correction ).

I agree with lwn vs rwn, will work inside Mountaineering association of Serbia on defining criteria. I propose we leave it as is for now ( per your correction ).

Regarding name I will correct it to official one since you are fine with that.

I'm really glad you are using trails in Serbia, please let me know if I can be of any help.

Best,
Vanja