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58461290 over 7 years ago

osm.wiki/Speed_limits

Lists 40/50mph as single carriageway limit when for specific vehicle classes for which those limits are default under the "derestriction/national speed limit sign" (white circle with black diagonal stripe). When posted as a signed maximum (black number on white circle with red border) for all vehicles it would logically follow that 20/40/50mph limits are classed with 30mph as "restricted," as they are "standard" legal speed restrictions below the NSL in the UK. The wiki table UK section perhaps needs some expansion in that regard after due peer discussion.

57458653 over 7 years ago

Right; I think that's all squared away now.

57458653 over 7 years ago

Thanks for that. I'll add it to the snagging list for my Bishops Lydeard project. I'm going to sort out all the schoolboy errors in one hit when I've finished making them! :D

56303923 almost 8 years ago

Yes, it is. Fat-finger syndrome strikes again! Fixed.

54341899 almost 8 years ago

Hmmm... The EDDC street record lists it as Anning Road, as does Royal Mail under postcode EX5 2FQ. However, local parish council notices relating to closures, etc., refer to it as both Road and Drive.

UPRN: 010090911208

54341899 almost 8 years ago

Is it a "secondary road," though...?

49292776 almost 8 years ago

The mind boggles...

49292776 about 8 years ago

You're kidding?! Figured it might be left-overs from the original vandalism!

Every day's a school day...

49292776 about 8 years ago

I see that a path running through the area bounded by this changeset's outline is tagged with a name of "Your Mom." I suspect that this is not factually accurate! I'm unfamiliar with the area so do not know if the path actually has a name or not, else I'd dive in and rename or delete the name for it.

51362866 about 8 years ago

I could have sworn I read that value in the wiki somewhere but it's not on the access= page, so - every day's a school day!

These two tracks are signed as being for emergency access to the A30 only with red "prohibition" format signs. Non-emergency access by non-official vehicles or personnel is thus prohibited by implication. I imagine this means pedestrians and bicycles, too, since the tracks lead nowhere but to the duel carriageway and are gated off. That being said, there's no actual direct statement that you cannot walk down them, although you'd be taking your life in your hands once you reached the bottom of the track!

I've added the gates and expanded the access tagging to specifically control that they are for emergency vehicles only, which should suffice.

52220923 about 8 years ago

It is because the PO is also a shop, but the shop part is open for different hours to the PO counter. As the shop is open for the longer hours the solution is to make the building outline the shop and the PO a node within the outline, which I have done.

50006102 about 8 years ago

Was in this area late last month and the paths and grass area around "CF18MAIN" do not exist. It's one big grass area. They certainly don't feature in the current Bing aerial imagery. This might be the build intent of the developers but it's not under construction yet and so probably shouldn't be on the map at this time. Also, given that it doesn't feature in the cited source would question the validity/usability within the licence of the actual source.

37441135 over 8 years ago

Good spot! Yes, I picked up the address for Nattor Farm, Yelverton, when this one is Nattor Farm, Peter Tavy. Doh! More haste, less speed...! Corrected now.

47641615 over 8 years ago

I suspect it is probably a frustration shared by many more than just myself, Mike - that every feature available to be tagged doesn't show on the "home" of OSM (openstreetmap.org), as the primary/premier/whatever perception of the product, as it were. It seems odd that you would include a feature in your available options that then doesn't apparently show on your "source map" when users add them (flagpoles spring immediately to mind, thinking of my mini-project to map all the range features on northern Dartmoor). To my mind it would seem that every physical tag in the set should render on OSM as a default. I have tried using Maperitive but scripting isn't my thing and I can't get it to work.
Still, I guess what does and doesn't render and why is a whole other discussion, which is probably already raging on the forum, so...

47641615 over 8 years ago

Yes, I realise that, Mike - however, looking at the rendering on OSM there's nothing to indicate visually the sport; there's just three identically-green rectangles. Of course, there could be a critical tag missing but the tagging seems complete according to wiki.

When editing there is a symbol in the middle of the rectangle. It would follow that this should be seen on the rendered map also but, for some reason, isn't. Not on any of my devices, anyway...

46134827 almost 9 years ago

That's a bind. Oh, well - c'est la vie, I s'pose.

It does raise an interesting question, though - when can something seen be unseen. To get away from the GE issue to avoid blurring: I'm an avid hiker and go off with my map and compass into the wilds to bash some hills regularly. If I were to, say, be stood on a particular hill and note that my OS map indicated the summit was Xm above MSL and then, a few days later, I'm browsing that area in OSM and notice that there is a peak node on that hill's summit but the ele= tag is missing and then add it using the elevation from my map am I violating copyright because I'm adding information shown on an OS map or am I sourcing "local knowledge" because I saw that info a few days previously and it's now knowledge of that location I hold in my head?

It's a conundrum I'm sure has a simple answer but I can't see it myself right now. Sure - there must be a line between seeing info explicitly in documents and that info being converted into "local knowledge" you then have in your head (I mean, the majority of learning is done by reading what others have written, looking at what others have drawn, photographed or otherwise recorded, right?) but where is it and is it clearly defined or fuzzy...?

Hmmmm - interesting. I shall mull it over the w/e, I think.

JG

46134827 almost 9 years ago

Blimey! So, for example: browse through StreetView, see a business name has changed since it was mapped, close the browser entirely, at a later time open JOSM, change the name associated with the building and it's a © violation? Who knew...?! Apart from the obvious, who could tell either...?

I'll have to get into the habit of taking more extensive notes and photos when I'm out and about looking at mappy stuff, clearly! That or get a better memory...

JG

46134827 almost 9 years ago

Cheers, chap...

For clarification; data isn't extracted from GE or StreetView; I just use them as a pictorial reference along with my dashcam footage and GPS fixes. I'm not actually aware of what data there is to extract from GE or SV - it's just photos, after all! Unfortunately, the source field in JOSM doesn't lend itself to lengthy descriptive essays!

I use a friend's drone to take look-down photos of new developments and then georeference them using Global Mapper. Sadly it is now illegal to fly a drone over buildings in the UK so am disinclined to reference it in the Source, even if images were captured before the ban...

JG

45599225 almost 9 years ago

I dealt with a few of these highlighted as deprecated by Keep Right! and noticed that the new tagging scheme doesn't appear to render in OSM so put the old tag back in (alongside the new one) and they were shown again, with a view to removing the old tag again when the new one renders.

Perhaps there needs to be a review by whomever is in charge of such things to update the rendering engine to account for changes to tagging schemes? - especially for such useful information as the location of roadside emergency 'phones, even allowing for the almost universal possession of mobile 'phones these days!

41213734 about 9 years ago

Well spotted! Heaven only knows what happened there - probably had that section selected and then, after a distraction of some sort, went and held down CTRL to pick other edits having panned the map to another area of interest. Oops...