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78894198 almost 6 years ago

Well, if I have to be honest I still think the border checkpoint itself, as well as the as well as the road between Tuas West Dr and AYE should have the tag "highway=trunk". :)
Right now, I am trying to figure out exactly how both border checkpoints around the Tuas second link look inside, in order to draw them exactly as they are.
Btw, do you live in Singapore?

78894198 almost 6 years ago

Well, you know :) Singapore used to be my home between 1994 and 1996 :) I've been back there recently for the 1st time 2 months ago.
About the tags: actually I don't know how it used to be, but I add other completely different access tags for the purpose you described above (for instance bus=no, motorcar=designated, etc.). However, I noticed sometimes, the highway=* has influence not only in the routing of OSM and OSM-based maps; but also on users' choice regarding where they want to go. When I changed those tags into "Highway=trunk", it was to clearly show the difference (= yes, it is a main road, no this is not a motorway section).

78894198 almost 6 years ago

Hello, @feta2 :)
Why did you revert my changes? I am trying to understand the relevance of marking the whole Tuas checkpoint, as well as the road between Tuas West Dr and AYE as motorway and motorway link ... Usually, "motorway link" = motorways/expressways exit, and main roads are usually marked as "trunk"...

78742905 almost 6 years ago

O.K.

78742905 almost 6 years ago

Actually, it's OSM itself that suggested me this change. It asked me to update obsolete tags, which is why I did it. Doesn't it show such message to you when you work on riverbanks?

78635079 about 6 years ago

Cześć. Ja po prostu chciałem, żeby można było łatwiej znaleźć adres.Z tego co pamiętam, ja dodałem kod pocztowy i nazwę gminy. Co tam poszło nie tak?

48708810 over 6 years ago

When I drew that I went there by car two years ago, so I can hardly answer all your questions. Nevertheless, it was a black/white border marker "Latvija/Eesti". To prove I'm right I would have to come back there by car and make Mapillary geolocalization. It won't be for right now as I usually travel between the Baltics by bus, with big groups.

60960988 over 6 years ago

Actually I had mapped this 10 months ago like it looked back then. I haven't crossed there since, so I don't know how it looks like at the moment.

68206801 almost 7 years ago

Hello!

I find a lot of places in Latvia where:
- Roads have been deleted
- Tags have been deleted (which leads solely some untagged line instead of a road)
- In the place of those roads, a lot of untagged points had been added (God knows why).

How can I see it was vandalized? When I zoom out, I see those roads existed before. But when I zoom in, they don't.

I don't know if it was the case of this specific changeset (Here, I think I simply for got to change the description of the changeset because I am also adding or correcting LV protected areas), but if you see I write about "vandalized territories" you have the explanation above.

I added quite a bit of "pushpins" to report those problems in places where I had no time to do that work. I really need help from other users finding such areas in Latvia and correcting them. I am glad you got interested.

Thanks!

66925932 almost 7 years ago

I see you love the word "nazi". You use it very often :)
Contrary to you, I am not competing with anyone. I don't have that much time for mapping as you do because I have my own life :)
Third: don't try to pretend you deleted my data because I was putting wrong names :) I would have never put "Aleksandrówka" to "Trakai". Your requests of making names match phonetically is so absurd that it makes me laugh. So what? Are you going to force Hungarians to call Vienna "Wien" instead of "Bécs" because it doesn't match phonetically?
Your delusion that you are above all OSM and above all laws is absolutely incredible. It won't last long.

68260294 almost 7 years ago

First of all, you have no clue what I agreed with the DWG, so don't speak as if you were between them and myself.
Second, you always look for the tiniest little pretext to harass me and if you keep on doing that, this will end in court.
I added name:lv tags which are available on wiki. If you think I should have added additionnally name:lt tags, add them yourself if you are so smart.
You have time to harass people and vandalize data, do something good once in your life.

66923854 almost 7 years ago

I remember there was a confusion between Niščanka and Janka. I also think there is a mistake on Wiki, because when I looked at old Polish maps (you can find similar ones at kami.net.pl/kresy), I saw the flow was different at the split point.

66923854 almost 7 years ago

Hmmmmm........... Good question. As far as I remember, I was merging different river elements that had exactly the same characteristics. When you merge 2 elements, it appears as if you had deleted one. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me a river element appears as "deleted". However, I am just surprised to see some relation deleted ... I would have to make a test

50175978 almost 7 years ago

Well, we are supposed to map facts, not eventualities, and the fact is: border controls are not there on a daily basis, which is why mapping them is not relevant. Otherwise, I would have to map all possible border/customs controls within the Schengen area (and not necessarily at the borders themselves but for instance in cities distant 30-50 or 100km from the border). I mapped some border guard controls within the Belarusian or Lithuanian territory, but it is solely because they are systematic. No exception.
For the routing question, I will give you a very simple example I've encountered with a lot of GPS-es: from Vilnius to Warsaw. In order to stay within the Schengen area, you drive through Alytus, Lazdijai, Augustów, Łomża. However, if you put that "border control tag" at the PL/LT border, it will route you through Druskininkai, Hrodna (Belarus) and Białystok because it is the shortest/fastest route in theory. Problem is: to drive through Belarus, you need a visa, and you need to waste a lot of time at the LT/BY border and the BY/PL border. Moreover, it is not allowed to bring a lot of alcohol nor meat through that border. This means that if you want to drive through Belarus and bring some sausage you will encounter some issues, they will ask you to exit the BY territory to get rid of those goods, etc.
Same if you want to drive from Poland to Romania through Ukraine (except for the visa, but you still need a passport and there are some restrictions).

50175978 almost 7 years ago

Hello
This changeset was made over a year ago, just the way I saw it "live".
To answer your question: both Hungary and Slovakia are part of the Schengen area. This means there is no *systematic* border control. If you map a border control on an intra-Schengen border and you use any app with the option "avoid border control" the GPS will lead you through some small road, or another country.
As a similar situation: you have controls on other Schengen borders (LT/PL, LV/LT, LV/EST, PL/SK, F/B ...) but they are not systematic and they stop very few vehicles. Hence, there is no need to map them. However, on extra-Schengen borders (like LT/BY, PL/BY, SK/UA, H/UA, H/RO, etc.) those border control tags should always be added if they are not present.

50403473 almost 7 years ago

Well, to me it would have been even better, but as I told you - the issue is that it has absolutely no influence over navigation if you use the correct tags additionally to "barrier=border control" (like hgv=designated, etc.). However, it does have an influence when you do that for the road itself. I can't check whether I had done that at that time because I am not in front of any computer, so if you want to do that, go on! :)

50403473 almost 7 years ago

Ehm. I am not sure about what you refer to (because I did this like 1 year ago), but if you refer to adding access tags for "barrier=border control", they have no influence at all over navigation issues (which is why I added that legend at the time in name=*). However, definitely those tags should be added to the "highway=*" tags if they hadn't been added. I don't have the time to check that right now ;)

66925932 almost 7 years ago

Do you even read what you write Tomas?!...

First of all, no Polish name (nor any name in any other language - even in transliterations to Russian or Belarusian) phonetically matches Lithuanian names. Not even one! Your politicians are the ones who, continuing the Soviet tradition, force local Poles to transliterate their names in a way that is neither correct in Lithuanian, neither in Polish! They are a direct transliteration from Russian Cyrillic from USSR times. As a comparison, In Poland, the Lithuanian minority has the right to write their own names with Lithuanian ė, š, č, ū (ą and ę are common). Pre-war Lithuania allowed multilingual names. Grow up man! It's the 21st century, and Lithuania has been independent for 28 years now! Following your logic, I would have to write "Wylnys", "Kołnas", "Panewieżis" phonetically Lithuanian language! Oh, maybe I should write "Vylnys, Coounasse, Panèviéjisse" in French, "Velnes, Counas, Paneviexis" in Spanish, "Vilnis, Counaçe, Paneviejiçe" in Portuguese to match Lithuanian phonetically? Even like that it won't ever match 100%! It is totally wrong. Unbelievable you are even stating such a nonsense!

Second, the blog you sent is 100% personal and is in Lithuanian.

Moreover, you know very well that you hadn't moved anything to "old_name:pl". You just deleted whatever I edited, independently on whether it matches your criteria or not. For such a bad will, you are the one who should have been banned as an immediate effect! You are the one who is not following the rules of good conduct of OSM at any time, which state clearly "ask first"! You are the one who is wasting other people's time!

Following the logic of what you wrote above about the old_name:pl, I should move "Suvalkai", "Vižainis", "Augustavas", "Seinai" from name:lt tag to old_name:lt tag because they exist only on old maps; and you're not allowed to copy from governmental nor paper maps... Unbelievable! ... Oh, maybe I should delete "Paryžius", "Lisabona", "Londonas" or "Karakasas" because Lithuania has never reached those places?...

I know why you hate communicating: you are extremely bad at (whatever you say make things worse and worse). You are the perfect guy for a country to start a war with another instead of avoiding it. I sincerely sympathize with people who work or live with you on a daily basis!

Your excuse of not inviting me to any event despite I edit a lot in LT and I live in LT is absolutely lame. You didn't invite me just because you have a personal issue with me and you are afraid of telling that to me face to face; or to discuss certain things we may not agree on, even in a friendly way. Perhaps you have only people that adore you at those meetings, and you don't want to screw that up because you are afraid I will tell you the truth in your face! That is a big pity for the LT OSM community to have such a "leader".

I am currently avoiding to edit anything on LT OSM unless I clarify some things with Fred. Now, please mind your own LT-business and stay out of my edits in any other country. Of you want, you can help me re-draw some roads or rivers in Latvia, Belarus and Russia, which have been drawn by someone in a very strange way, as if they were drunk, not matching the reality at all :) Your help would be more than welcome in such cases, but I don't think you will do that because constructive behavior is not your thing. You enjoy destroying, not constructing.

66925932 almost 7 years ago

Strangely, you are the only one complaining about what I am adding :) Moreover, if it is not useful for you as a Lithuanian using the map in Lithuanian language, it is useful for people using the map in other languages :)
A lot of the names I had added previously were for public use because they were on wikipedia, wiki etc. :) You haven't checked anything, you just deleted it.
Ah, one more thing: I'm afraid you are the wrong person to state I make nazi remarks :)

66925932 almost 7 years ago

I am *adding* multilingual names (especially name:be, int_name, but also name:et, name:de, name:fi, name:pl, name:lt and name:lv tags. If you are talking about the 2 or 3 German names that were in it, they were totally wrong. Not correct phonetically in Russian, Belarusian nor German.
You will be more than disappointed because as my name is not Tomas Straupis, I added a lot of name:de tags where they are relevant and where the names really do exist :) In Belarus and in Latvia :)
Btw, I had already notified the DWG about this issue on Belarusian soil so they know why I am doing that :P
Contrary the the Polish, Latvian etc. names you have been deleting all around Lithuania, those German names were nowhere to be found either in Wiki either in any other sources like pre-war maps or governmental documents. What would you do if you would see some name:en tag that instead of "Vilnius" says "Vylnys" or "Velnias"? You would keep it, right? Knowing that you won't find that name anywhere? :) Neither in Wiki, neither in governmental documents, neither in archive documents? :) Of course you would :)
In your case, Tomas, you deleted my names despite you knew *very well* they do exist and they are present in various sources. Just in order to vandalize my work and the work of people like me trying to promote tourism in Lithuania for foreigners, which is good for your country. Be happy you haven't been banned. As of yet.
It's ironic you've suddenly become so international, Tomas? But of course, only when it's convenient for you? :) lol I'm afraid you hate me from the very beginning because you are a totally narrow-minded guy, totally blinded by your hatred towards Poles and everything what is Polish. Fortunately, less and less people here in Lithuania have this mentality "Lietuva Lietuvams" because more than 25% of your population has left and they do realize people from abroad are not that bad. Even Polish people. And you also tend to forget Polish was one of the languages of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania for a very long time, which means it is historical for your country.
Ah, and one more thing: contrary to the Lithuanian community, the Belarusian, Polish, and Ukrainian communities have invited me to their events and so on despite I don't even live there. When they have any objection towards any of my edits, they contact me directly before doing anything (mostly directly through chatting communicators like Telegram). Learn friendliness, courage and communication skills from them! It's much better for Lithuania's image!