Jan Olieslagers's Comments
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| 128806460 | about 3 years ago | Not relevant. It was not named or mentioned in any way. I already told you I carefully avoid that, at your request. I entered the data under my own nick and at my own responsability, as perceived by myself. Again, please do feel free to improve. |
| 101723436 | about 3 years ago | I have now changed the "icao" tag to "local_ref", as is customary |
| 128806460 | about 3 years ago | I found those data at uk_airfield_guide, run by Mr. Richard F, who is a firm acquaintance by now. We do not like that site, I well remember how you warned against mentioning it in any way on OSM and I carefully respect that. Still I trust Dick to do his homework right, and be sure that I checked satellite images myself before adding the strip to OSM.
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| 122234570 | about 3 years ago | They are part of the runway, yes indeed. Im my opinion, we should map the full length of runway as a runway, then add markings to it as appropriate for thresholds. A displaced threshold is, on the ground, nothing more than a stripe of paint, after all.
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| 127891348 | about 3 years ago | Andy, it is not the first time that I come across like that. I am ready to apologise for that! I think it comes from my habit - quite unusual these days, I know! - to think matters over, thoroughly, before and during action. If you can hand me any good argument I will be ready to consider and discuss it, and it is not impossible that you convince me. I really am open to correction, and you could see that from consulting my exchanges with various other mappers. Up to now you have offered nothing better than "it has always been like this...", it takes more than such old-wives-talk to convince me.
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| 127891348 | about 3 years ago | Andy, thanks for the reply, I was beginning to wonder if any would come - and not replying at all is quite rude to me, we all have our delicate points. I tried the place that you named but it seems to be a telegram group, creating a telegram account is on my todo-list but not a high priority. Allow me to point out that the state of the mapping of aerodromes in Ukraine is an utter mess, various people have tried to obscure aeronautical information in various ways - it looks like a flock of very nervous very individualistic birds flew over an ant colony :) Now this could be the result of a policy agreed upon by the local community, but I find that hard to imagine. Anyway the point is moot: I have decided not to touch aerodromes in Ukraine for the time being - the more so that I see modest efforts by others to put things back in order.
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| 121745909 | about 3 years ago | And what do you mean by a "linear runway"? Again, our very dear own wiki opens by defining a runway as an area. |
| 127891348 | about 3 years ago | Andy,
Further: while local arguments and factors may be relevant for certain matters, the mapping of aeronautical data should be universal. The sky and the rules of ICAO are the same everywhere. |
| 127615639 | about 3 years ago | I agree with @Edelsalami - it is ridiculous and stupid to believe that the big bad bear will ever depend in the least bit on information that can freely be manipulated by anyone, without any trace of identity or locality. Sheer madness!
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| 124566392 | over 3 years ago | Thanks for adding this runway, there was however no need to add it twice; I took the liberty to remove the double. Have you any idea what kind of flying happens here? |
| 124180949 | over 3 years ago | Yes, indeed, tatsaechlich :)
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| 124200995 | over 3 years ago | The aerodrome was already mapped, as way/425941434. Please avoid double information. |
| 124180949 | over 3 years ago | Next time, please add a "closed" or "disused" tag somehow - I had almost re-added the aerodrome. |
| 122888997 | over 3 years ago | No reaction after a fair time of waiting, I'll clean up by myself. |
| 122448359 | over 3 years ago | Yes, I must agree to all those points. And yet... I would have preferred "no:aerodrome". Still, as long as I keep my periodical checks running, any future return would be soon detected, so we are on the safe side for now. Thanks again! |
| 122448359 | over 3 years ago | Thank you, Mateusz, but no:
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| 122018239 | over 3 years ago | Daar heb ik ook al de hele tijd mijn twijfels bij. Ik _denk_ dat ik er een apart terrein van zou maken. area=yes, landuse=industrial, operator=belgocontrol, comment=Luchtverkeerscontrolecentrum Steenokkerzeel o.i.d. Bemerk dat Skeyes enkel een handelsnaam is, net als Coca Cola of Mercedes :) maar dus officieel niets te betekenen heeft. |
| 122018239 | over 3 years ago | Heel graag! Ik ging eraan beginnen, maar reeds bij een eerste blik werd het me duidelijk dat het een behoorlijk groot werk wordt, waarvoor ik nauwelijks de tijd/energie kan opbrengen. Ga uw gang, dus, en vraag gerust om details - nog tot eind juni kom ik daar elke woensdag voorbij, om in Kortenberg de trein te nemen. Ook: reeds bedankt voor het terugdraaien van die "aparte luchthaven", mijn statistieken zien er alweer wat beter uit! Hartelijk, Karel ADAMS |
| 122018239 | over 3 years ago | Okee, ik vat het aan, het zal wel in stapjes gebeuren want het zijn hier drukke dagen. Dank voor de positieve instelling! |
| 122018239 | over 3 years ago | Het is een beetje ongelukkig om dit gebiedje als een aparte luchthaven te mappen. Het lijkt me veel meer aangewezen om de huidige mapping van de "echte" luchthaven uit te breiden tot aan de draadafsluiting, dus inclusief de Ringbaan. |