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172029375 3 months ago

Hi,
How depressing to see the Core Software Development Facilitator map such a small circular area as way/1430348942 as a riding center! It should be tagged as way/704239918, IMHO. Here is an example of a real riding center: way/1334627268.

way/1430348943 doesn't really look like a riding center to me either, just like a track with a fence around it.

Older, similar discussion from 2 years ago: changeset/132702177

171958141 3 months ago

Hi,
I wonder what the reason was for mapping the riding centre twice, as an area (way/1429932220) and also as a node (node/13144204026), compare osm.wiki/Good_practice#One_feature,_one_OSM_element

171906766 3 months ago

Hi,
Is way/1429686756 really a building? It does not look like one on bing and others.

171860652 3 months ago

Hi,
here you have tagged two buidings as riding centres (leisure=horse_riding) that are right next to each other. Are they really two separate riding centres? If it is only one, it should be represented by only one object (node or area) with leisure=horse_riding (one feature, one OSM element rule).

171822794 3 months ago

Hi,
Why did you retag way/959770729 from a riding arena (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian) to an equestrian centre (leisure=horse_riding)? To me, this area looks like a riding arena, so the previous tagging was correct, compare
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) and
leisure=horse_riding. A single riding arena is not an equestrian centre, just as a single soccer pitch is not a soccer stadium or sports_centre (from leisure=sports_centre).

Perhaps this riding arena belongs to an equestrian centre that has not yet been mapped; in that case, you can map it as an additional object (node or area) without retagging the arena, example: way/159628079#map=19/35.556070/139.650131&layers=P

If you want to reply that this is none of my business and that I should leave you alone because I am not in Japan, I would like to point out that such misuse of the tag leisure=horse_riding is the main reason why this tag is not yet rendered on OSM Carto, see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3660#issuecomment-462927711

I also think that way/1182217067 looks like a riding arena and should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian instead of leisure=horse_riding.

171814219 3 months ago

Hi,
way/1429164939 is not a horse riding centre (leisure=horse_riding), it looks like a horse riding arena, similar to way/958775278#map=19/47.524219/7.536824&layers=P (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian). See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

171777245 3 months ago

Hi,
the 10 small rectanges like way/1428966604, that you tagged with tourism=trail_riding_station, are problably just the 10 sandpaddock described on https://hippischcentrumlathum.nl/accommodatie/ and not trail riding stations. (A trail riding stations is a facilitiy where trail riders can stop and stay overnight on longer trail rides.) Paddocks can be tagged with landuse=animal_keeping

171652110 3 months ago

Hi,
way/1428098234 is not a horse riding centre (leisure=horse_riding), it is a horse riding arena like way/1076563747 (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian). See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

Tłumaczenie automatyczne:

Cześć,
way/1428098234 nie jest ośrodkiem jeździeckim (leisure=horse_riding), jest to ujeżdżalnia konna, podobna do way/1076563747 (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian). Zobacz także osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

171630072 3 months ago

Hi,
bitte nicht die Presets "Reitplatz" und "Reitanlage" verwechseln! Die Fläche way/1427945530 sieht mir deutlich wie ein Reitplatz aus, aber du hast sie als Reitanlage getaggt. way/1427945529 hast du als Reitplatz getaggt, hat aber eine sehr seltsame Form für einen Reitplatz. way/1427945528 hast du als Reitanlage getaggt, ist aber viel zu klein dafür; könnte evtl. ein Longierzirkel oder Round-Pen sein und würde dann normalerweise auch wie ein Reitplatz getaggt. Vergleiche:
osm.wiki/DE_talk:Tag:leisure=horse_riding#reitplatz_vs_reitanlage
osm.wiki/DE:How_to_map_a/R#Reitstall
way/375032149#map=17/53.104531/9.969631&layers=P (Beispiel-Reitanlage mit 2 Reitplätzen)

171583227 3 months ago

I did NOT recommend to retag way/1427690967 from racecourse (sports_centre + horse_racing) to equestrian center (leisure=horse_riding). Here the object (area) representing Porto Santo Equestrian Center is way/1282997073, and now you have produced another smaller equestrian center inside of Porto Santo Equestrian Center, which does not make much sense to me. Horse riding arenas should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian.

171532501 3 months ago

Yes, I ride horses. Unfortunately, the riding centres are not visible on many OSM maps because the tag has been used incorrectly too often (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3660). That's why I occasionally complain when someone uses the tag incorrectly.
There are various tagging options for paddocks. In Germany, we have more smaller and grassless paddocks, for which meadow=paddock does not seem suitable, which is why (a long time ago) someone invented landuse=animal_keeping. See also osm.wiki/Riding

171532501 3 months ago

Yes, I ride horses. Unfortunately, the riding centres are not rendered on many OSM maps because the tag has been used incorrectly too often (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3660). That's why I occasionally complain when someone uses the tag incorrectly.
There are various tagging options for paddocks. In Germany paddocks are mostly smaller snd grassless. In this case meadow=paddock is not really suitable, which is why (a long time ago) someone invented landuse=animal_keeping. See also osm.wiki/Riding

171583227 3 months ago

Hi,
Is way/1427690967 really a horse racecourse? Doesn't this area belong to Porto Santo Equestrian Center which is described on https://visitmadeira.com/pt/onde-ir/porto-santo/a-descoberta-da-ilha/centro-hipico-do-porto-santo/ ? They don't mention horse racing. Is it perhaps just a large riding arena? Perhaps with a leisure=track around it? Compare
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Racecourse_(horse_racing)
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)
way/1157055740#map=19/37.049087/-7.974068&layers=P (example)

171532501 3 months ago

Hi,
If this is just a horse paddock it is not a riding centre (leisure=horse_riding). How about landuse=meadow instead?

node/6823758678 is a an example of a riding centre

171513191 4 months ago

Hi,
You have tagged way/1427363779 as a horse riding centre (leisure=horse_riding), but is probably just a horse riding arena, the one from https://www.canyonbc.ca/?page=horse. Horse riding arenas are usually tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, example: way/837980897

171395220 4 months ago

Na klar ist mir das bekannt, steht in osm.wiki/Good_practice#Do_correct_errors, aber da steht auch "However, be respectful to the work done by other mappers and consider consulting them especially when existing data is just tagged with unclear or undocumented methods or tags; often there is more than one way to interpret situations and mapping guidelines.".

171385421 4 months ago

Hi,
regarding way/1426757471: If this area is really just a "paddock, connected to stable", then it is not a riding centre; perhaps it belongs to one, but then there should be another object (node or area) for this riding centre. Related wiki pages:
landuse=animal_keeping
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)
way/410524276 (example)

171395220 4 months ago

Hi,
way/1426796596 ist keine Reitanlage, das sieht aus wie eine Führanlage, siehe osm.wiki/DE:Tag:animal=horse_walker. In einer Führanlage reitet niemand. Du hast doch schon eine Reitanlage gemappt: way/127112432

171330188 4 months ago

Hi,
way/1426455780 is not a horseback riding center (leisure=horse_riding), it is an outdoor riding arena similar to way/1168359119 (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian). See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

171253391 4 months ago

Hi,
I don't know what way/886411212 ("Pacuan Kuda Dg Tata (YOSS)") exacly is, but it seems to have to do with horse racing. In this case tag leisure=horse_riding is not appropriate, see osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Racecourse_(horse_racing)