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138422824 about 21 hours ago

@Bear-in-a-box: I just asked you to tag horse walkers with animal=horse_walker and not wirh leisure=horse_riding (horse riding centre) in changeset/176037064

176037064 1 day ago

Then I look forward to removing more leisure=horse_riding tags from horse walkers n the future like here:
changeset/176109937

But perhaps iD will get a preset for horse walkers:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/1857

176037064 2 days ago

Hi,
two years ago we had already discussed that riding arenas and horse walkers are not horse riding centres (leisure=horse_riding):
changeset/144858869
changeset/144858341
Paddocks and small buildings are also not horse riding centres.

It seems that you forgot, because you have now tagged new ones with leisure=horse_riding again:
way/1459221854
way/1459264444
way/1459223304
way/1459222243
way/1459223143
way/1459222367
way/1459222487

It would be nice if you could correct this, because otherwise it is a bad example for others who might imitate it if they do not inform themselves in the wiki:
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)
way/632271037/history#map=18/50.654421/4.321039&layers=P (example)

175971630 4 days ago

Hi,
Here you have added leisure=horse_riding to 3 areas:
way/72109824
way/72109936
way/853018125
With that you have added 3 horse riding centres to OSM, but I assume that this was not intended and that all 3 areas belong to the same horse riding centre, probably https://manegethoogt.nl/. If this assumption is correct then there should be only one area or node tagged with leisure=horse_riding for the whole riding centre, compare leisure=horse_riding#When_not_to_use
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)
way/659541130#map=17/52.161549/5.201264&layers=P (example)

173900805 6 days ago

Noch nicht fertig. Aber eben angefangen: https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/1857

175573595 13 days ago

Thanks for the quick reply.. Yes, I saw that you are relatively new to OSM. I don't want to discourage you from continuing with OSM if you enjoy it. You are by no means the only one who has used the horse_riding tag for other things, example: node/4354750993#map=19/-0.863128/-78.910625&layers=P.

175573595 14 days ago

Hi,
way/1456420705 and way/1456420726 are no horse riding centers / equestrian centers; they are riding arenas / rings, Arenas / rings should be tagged like way/1451542198 (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian).

way/1456420727 is not a horse riding center / equestrian center; this area just contains 3 paddocks. It could be tagged with landuse=animal_keeping.

Compare:
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)
way/843668144 (example)

way/1456420726 and way/1456420727 probably belong to https://www.burragesendstables.com (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3qGLYIBuBM), which could be mapped as an additional object (node or area) and tagged as a horse riding center / equestrian center (leisure=horse_riding), or as an animal boearding facility (amenity=animal_boarding).
leisure=horse_riding#When_not_to_use says: "Use this tag only once for the whole facility, don't use it multiple times on different objects belonging to it (one feature, one OSM element rule". Misuse of the tag leisure=horse_riding for arenas, paddocks, pens and other things is the reason why it is not yet rendered on the OSM "standard" map. So please avoid that.

175544234 14 days ago

Hi,
way/1456239137 ist wohl eher ein Reitplatz als eine Reitanlage im Sinne von osm.wiki/DE:Tag:leisure=horse_riding. Reitplatze werden normalerweise mit leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian getaggt (wozu es auch ein Preset mit dem sinnvollen Namen "Reitplatz" gibt). Vgl.
osm.wiki/DE:How_to_map_a/R#Reitstall
way/1304873173#map=18/48.765014/9.360290&layers=P (Beispiel)

175380492 18 days ago

Oops, this comment was meant for a different change set: changeset/175372511

175372511 18 days ago

Hi,
I have retagged way/1455297112 according to osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

In JOSM you can tag riding arenas with the preset for sport=equestrian.

175380492 18 days ago

Hi,
I have retagged way/1455297112 according to osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

In JOSM you can tag riding arenas with the preset for sport=equestrian.

175291459 19 days ago

Hi,
The following areas which you tagged with leisure=horse_riding (equestrian center) don't look like equestrian centers:
way/1451478266
way/1454751182
way/1454763484
way/1454763482
way/1454763483
The first four are propaböy round pens or riding arenas; they are usually tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, exaple: way/881795829#.
I don't know what the 5th area represents, perhaps it is a paddock (see tag landuse=animal_keeping).

Here are some exaples of equestrian centers in OSM:
way/1211183284
way/1206456651
way/1087585920
See also:
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

175246742 21 days ago

Hi,
Regarding
way/1385503805 and
way/1454475773 compare
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)
way/447893113#map=18/22.514863/114.108724&layers=PN (example)

175240518 22 days ago

Hi
way/1454437728 and,
way/1454437729 are no riding centers. The large one is a riding arena and should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian instead of leisure=horse_riding.
The small one (pound pen or lunging circle) is usually also tagged this way. Example:
way/1063434544#map=19/38.221983/-77.758979&layers=P
Photo:
https://clearwindfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/DJI_0022-1030x773.jpg
Compare OSM wiki

175065859 24 days ago

Ich habe den Eindruck, dass die Bubatzkarte auch einen roten Fleck um leisure=horse_riding macht (wie bei pitch); Beispiel:
osm.org/#map=16/52.6277/13.3673&layers=PN
https://bubatzkarte.de/#16/52.6277/13.3673
Wenn das so ist, hat das (inzw. wieder rückgängig gemachte) Umtaggen von leisure=pitch zu leisure=horse_riding auf der Bubatzkarte nichts geändert.

175065859 25 days ago

Danke für die schnelle Antwort. Tut mir leid, dass es dir aggressiv vorgekomme n ist. Das ist natürlich unschön.

Es ist nicht mein/unser Hof; mir ist nur aufgefallen, dass die Reitplätze umgetaggt wurden. Verstehe ich das jetzt richtig, dass die Besitzer von dem Hof euch, als Maintainer von der Bubatzkarte angeschrieben haben, weil Reitplätze (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian) auf dieser Karte als Cannabis-Konsumverbotszonen angezeigt werden? Und Reitanlagen aber nicht? Und dass du die Reitplätze deswegen umgetaggt hast? Wieso werden denn Reitplätze (leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian) auf dieser Karte als Cannabis-Konsumverbotszonen angezeigt und Reitanlagen nicht? Weil man beim Reiten kein Cannabis konsumieren soll, aber davor und danach darf man? Auf Reitanlagen sind sehr oft Kinder und Jugendliche.

Zur Info: osm.wiki/DE:How_to_map_a/R#Reitstall

175045847 25 days ago

My first link was wrong, I meant
way/1453216786 instead of
way/145321678.

175045847 25 days ago

Hi,
way/145321678 and
way/1453216829
don't look like riding centres (leisure=horse_riding); they look like riding arenas, similar to
way/787822093.

Are you sure that
way/1453216786 is a building?

Example riding centre with arenas:
way/1207911689#map=17/51.723286/-1.942221&layers=PN

In JOSM you can tag riding arenas with the preset for sport=equestrian.

175065859 25 days ago

Beispiel für Reitanlage mit Reitplättzen:
way/791216767#map=17/51.637770/7.154192&layers=PN

175065859 25 days ago

Hi,
was soll das, die Reitplätze umzutaggen? Die waren richtig als Reitplätzen getaggt und jetzt sind sie falsch als Reitanlagen getaggt, vgl. osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) und darin enth. Links.

Bitte erkläre mir, wie du auf diese Idee gekommen bist. Würde mich wirklich interessieren, denn es ist mir ein Rätsel. Und bitte ändere es zurück.