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163294723 10 months ago

Hi,
you have added leisure=horse_riding to way/39979940, but this building belongs to Club Hippique des Alpes (way/153093821) which was and is correctly tagged with leisure=horse_riding. To map a small equestrian centre inside of larger one makes no sense to me and is a violation of the one-feature-one-osm-element rule. Maybe you can use building=riding_hall instead.

163261514 10 months ago

Hi,
way/1364865247 does not look like a horse riding centre, it looks more like a horse riding arena. In OSM horse riding arenas are usually tagged leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, like here: way/1069062624
See also: leisure=horse_riding

162751182 10 months ago

Done in
changeset/163254860
and
changeset/163255503

162751182 10 months ago

@Allison P:
I wrote to the DWG last night already and asked them to take a look at this discussion. (That was the first time I ever wrote to them.) That's why I first thought that's why you commented here. But if you're not one of them, someone else from DWG may show up here anyway,

163073432 10 months ago

Thank you for fixing.

162751182 10 months ago

You have mapped not 6 but 11 horse highlines and tagged them as riding centres (and once you have mapped a riding centre correctly: node/12496714162). And you only started with OSM 2 months ago. How are you going to continue? Should the whole of the USA be covered in incorrectly tagged horse highlines in a few years' time? The more often a tag is used incorrectly, the more useless it becomes. I don't know of any tag that is intended to make any text appear anywhere on the maps. That is not the principle of how OSM works. The notes are readable for humans, but cannot be processed automatically.

162751182 10 months ago

If you want to see horse highlines in OsmAnd that are tagged with an appropriate tag (e.g. amenity=animal_hitch) but are not shown there, you can ask the maintainers of OsmAnd to add the rendering in OsmAnd. I'm not familiar with OsmAnd because I don't map with my phone; but if you are an OsmAnd user, you can certainly do it yourself. I assume https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues is a good place for that.

If you don't know (and don't want to learn) how to retag your already mapped horse highline nodes from leisure=horse_riding to amenity=animal_hitch or something else, I can do it for you with your permission. But then the nodes will probably no longer be shown in OsmAnd until the rendering of the corresponding tag has been added there. Please let me know what you want to do.

163121505 10 months ago

Yes, good idea.

163121505 10 months ago

Hi,
you have retagged a building to an equestrian centre (leisure=horse_riding). This was a bad idea, imho, because
1. you removed the building=* tag from the building and it is no longer rendered as a building
2. the equestrian centre is larger than the building, the area should cover the entire site of the equestrian centre, like here: way/1293314373 (or map it as a node). Compare leisure=horse_riding

163073432 10 months ago

Hi,
way/1363704961 looks like a riding arena and not like a riding center (leisure=horse_riding). Riding arenas are better tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, like way/311696114

162751182 10 months ago

What do you mean with "the map"? OsmAnd?

162751182 10 months ago

I don't know of any map that renders amenity=hitching_post or amenity=animal_hitch. This will certainly not happen with the maps offered on osm.org until thousands of such things have been mapped. So far there are only a few hundred. Even leisure=horse_riding, of which 19k have been mapped, is only rendered on a few maps so far, see osm.wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure=horse_riding#Rendering. To see the horse highlines on a map, you could add another tag, which will be rendered. But to do that would be against OSM conventions, see osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer. Or make your own map using the OSM data.

These tags are also not in the presets of the editors. For iD you can open a request like https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/issues/233. For JOSM you can add a preset in https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/NewTags yourself.

If you don't object, I will retag the horse highlines. Do you think that horse highlines can be called hitching posts? If not I will will retag them to amenity=animal_pitch + animal_pitch=xxx; should xxx be "highline" or "high_line"? There are also "picket lines" (two words), see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picket_line. Can you upload a photo without copyright restrictions of such a horse highline on wikimedia commons or in the OSM wiki for the documentation in the wiki? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Highline.jpg is not suitable because it shows a temporary highline which therefore should not be mapped in OSM.

163029178 10 months ago

Hi,
you did not add an equestrian area but you retagged a building to an equestrian centre (leisure=horse_riding) and this is wrong because
1. you removed the building=* tag and the building is no longer rendered as a building
2. the equestrian centre is larger than the building, the area should cover the entire site of the equestrian centre, like here: way/1039425581 (or map a node for it).

163012126 10 months ago

Hi, if way/1363324313 is a riding arena, it should be labelled leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian (like way/344275187), but I'm not sure if it is; it looks different on different satellite views.

162943045 10 months ago

Riding centres and riding arenas are often confused. I correct some from time to time; e.g. way/290761941 just now. The mistaggings have led to riding centres not being rendered on OSM Carto so far, see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3660#issuecomment-462927711

162751182 10 months ago

Thanks for the explanation. Can you send me link to the highline at Garden of the Gods; i couldn't find it.

162943045 10 months ago

Hi,
way/1362903947 looks like riding arena; should be tagged like way/1175384683

162751182 10 months ago

You mapped 4 additional horse highlines with tag leisure=horse_riding:
node/12613530437
node/12613449774
node/12613455055
node/12613623742

Horse highlines are no riding centers; tagging them with leisure=horse_riding is a misuse of this tag. I made a suggestion how they could be tagged above.

Can you please stop tagging horse highlines as horse riding centers?

162751182 10 months ago

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Highline.jpg ?

162751182 10 months ago

Suggestion: amenity=animal_hitch + animal_hitch=highline,
animal_hitch=highline should then be documented in
amenity=animal_hitch