I suppose in theory there's not so much point saying exactly what you're changing in your changeset comments, since that information is kind of in the changeset itself. Better to give the "why" rather than the "what"

Hi Randy. A real Chattanoogan! Excellent. So if you're ever driving on that particular bit of motorway you might want to check the oneway directions I've put on there. Think I've got them right, but it gets a bit confusing in the middle of the junction there. So we need to work on turning Chattanooga green. D'you have a green patch over on the East side of Chattanooga there?

Chattanooga Choo Choo hey? I've been trying to focus on motorways (freeways/iterstates/whater you call them), but I did get side-tracked by a few Chattanooga choo choo railways (also very messed up in the TIGER data)

Matt actually asked me to add a feature to my U.S. cities map to play a tune when you click on them. Seems like there's well known tunes about most of them. e.g. "Show me the way to Amarillo"... (This time last week there was only one way to Amarillo, but now it's connected to 128 cities. Hurrah!)

Good work Ian. You're helping to build a truly free map, whilst those suckers over at MapMaker are giving their data to google.

Presumably the police force already use maps a lot, unless this is the first time anyone's created a decent street map of the city. UK police use maps in their control-centres to track units in realtime for effective emergency response. They have navigation systems in the police cars. In resource planning offices they look over maps to figure out crime hotspots etc. In the UK the police use highly details Ordnance Survey maps for all of these tasks but they are looking at alternatives for publishing maps online. They are starting to publish crime statistics maps, and for publishing purposes it is expensive to use Ordnance Survey maps.

Gah! Guess we'll never know what that prawn dish was.

Skateboard mapping? Radical!

Speeding round Wembley Stadium was the most fun I've had while roller mapping.

We should shouldn't we? We have some information on Website Internationalization now. Just a matter of finding somebody to translate some of the text really.

I'm also quite keen on getting people to translate the 'About' page on the wiki into various languages.

You mean with an underscore: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=bus_stop

Currently the NoNames layer (along with all other CloudMade styles) is getting updated based on weekly planet dumps. The current intended schedule is to get this weekly data (snapshop from a Thursday morning) into the Cloudmade systems by the end of the day on Friday each week, but complications can mean this doesn't happen until the following week. Hence the NoNames map right now is most using a snapshot from Thursday 4th, but hopefully (possibly maybe) some time today it will start showing the snapshot from yesterday.

At some point we hope to improve the turnaround time by switching to a diff based updating process.

hehe. I'm constantly having this trouble too. Every hour you spend gathering data means about an hour sat at the computer editing. It's best to try to get editing done soon after surveying though. This helps a lot with remembering the details and actually makes the process quicker (I spend less time scratching my head puzzling over my notes)

Excellent! OpenStreetMap is certainly in need of some more detail in this part of the UK. I chipped away at Northampton a couple of times when visiting, but it's still scoring big on the UK Mapping Priorities. You're right, Wellingborough has even less detail. We should probably sketch in some landuse=residential grey blobs based on landsat, to help visualise progress, but ultimately we'll need people like you to get there on the ground and survey these places.

Ah yes. He was telling us about Caterham mapping.

"language setting switches to English"?

I just tested it. I have my language (for the website) set to German... I posted a diary entry with language (in the diary entry drop-down) set to English... and the website stayed on German as expected. The language selection when posting a diary entry has no baring on the general website display language.

Well there is such a list on the Key:shop page. In addition there's more details to drill down into for particular shop types. Why? Well because somebody started creating such pages, I think it's worthwhile for the reasons I've mentioned. It's worth clarify what exactly is meant by a 'florist' even if it seems obvious... and actually when you start to think about it, there are edge cases in everything. When is a florist actually a garden centre?

The same argument could apply to religion and denomination. Personally I dont know enough about religions to comment really, but I do know that when mapping I've never had a problem with edge cases on these tags, so maybe that's why nobody's got interested in filling in red links on that page.

I guess this means they'll be adding some footways to their actual maps too. Can't believe they'd throw enough manpower at the problem to achieve a decent level of coverage though.

There's a JOSM/Plugins list on the wiki, but even better there's a page about this GPS unit. You should definitely document your plugin there : osm.wiki/Columbus_V-900

Good tip. I always forget about the 'use thin lines at all levels' Potlatch option. I normally use JOSM though. Let me know if there's anything unclear about the JOSM Wmsplugin installation instructions. It is a bit fiddly. I'd like to make sure the description of installation steps is as clear as possible.

Good to meet you week. Come along to the next meet-up in Kilburn!

Ah yes. Bar Story. So are you free for a mapping party on Tuesday 19th if I arrange it there?

randomjunk: yeah where is that documented? I vaguely remember a mention of it somewhere.

Tom Chance: You live there? got a pub recommendation? Yeah Landuse is a bit of a funny problem. We need a coherent strategy for drawing landuse in somewhere like London, plus deciding how this fits with building outlines. I guess a lot of it can be done quite quickly from Yahoo and vague local knowledge if we only decide what the plan is. I listed these issues on the Central London wiki page

yeah that aswell :-)

You're arguing points which have been argued many times before. That's OK. Various people will debate the ins and outs of copyright law with you quite happily, and you can state your interpretations (interpretations which may or may not be correct / stand up in a court of law) but none of that really matters because...

That's not the way we build maps for OpenStreetMap. We do not use any copyrighted sources of information no matter how indirectly. We don't trace over them. We don't take measurements or pinpoint coordinates on them. We don't use them to find missing mapping progress. We don't even look at them whilst working on our maps.

Anyone who does these things is damaging the integrity of our open licensed data. Anyone who states publicly that they do these things, and that other might follow their example, is doing even more damage.

It's fine to have discussions about copyright law, and how it applies to our mapping techniques. This might even yield some new data sources or techniques that in the end we all agree we can use. Reading signs in google street view might end up being an example of that (although is this discussion still just based on a casual remark from Ed Parsons on twitter?) but for the time being this all just discussion. Please don't put into practice, or make statements about it being fine to do so.