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108208329 over 4 years ago

Mike - I suspect that trail is now a disused:highway - both ends obscured so hikers stay off it, but still a visible trail in the middle. I'm firmly in the "map what's there" camp, and not in the "NPS/USFS doesn't want this trail used so don't map it" club. *grin*
I agree - many of those fords are probably bridges or culverts. I usually map ford for paths unless I can see what's going on - sort of a 'fail-closed' approach.
"Assume You'll Get Your Feet Wet"
On the last point - that's interesting. I've been bugging Mapbox about their water pipeline - waterways and water polygons are currently frozen, with months of changes unapplied. Supposedly they will have the new pipeline rev in mid-August.
Does Mapbox have a mapping team working on National Parks right now?
Greg

108208329 over 4 years ago

AGGGGHHHH! No excuse - I was in a hurry and did some sloppy tagging.
1) That was only supposed to apply to way/310456812. The Mill Creek Trail was routed along there, I can see a cutline that marks the trail, but there's no Strava traffic at all. I tagged the visibility before realizing that it was part of the arterial trail, and then forgot to take off that tag from the arterial.
2) Sloppy of me. Not sure why I did that at all.
Both issues are fixed.
Thx so much for spotting both of those issues - greatly appreciated!
Greg

107617247 over 4 years ago

And apologies for any snark I may have thrown at you. :)

107617247 over 4 years ago

Yep - agreed. We're really on the same team here! I appreciate what you're doing in RoMo - I've run into so much bad/sloppy mapping lately, it's refreshing to see someone who knows what they're doing!

107617247 over 4 years ago

I found it - way #180642376. Guilty as charged.

107617247 over 4 years ago

Yes - the section is talking about bare 'highway=path' ways, and that explicitly tagging access is better than just a one-tag trail.
Look - I'm not removing any of your tags that you added (and for the record, I don't actually see that I removed tags from the Flat Top Trail) and you can tag away to your heart's delight. I'm just saying there are others that may remove tag bloat further down the line.
At least you're not one of the over-taggers that literally has 20 tags for a single trail.
motorcycle=no
ATV=no
roller_skates=no
submarine=no

107617247 over 4 years ago

Source:
osm.wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions
First table, "Default", 4th row from bottom.

107617247 over 4 years ago

And fyi, general consensus is that dirtbike and ATV trails should be tagged as track.
I know that's not always followed, but hey... it's OSM: Always on the verge of chaos!

107617247 over 4 years ago

First sentence of the wiki, emphasis mine:

highway=path is a generic path, either multi-use or unspecified usage, OPEN TO ALL NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLES and not intended for motorized vehicles unless tagged so separately.

If a trail is *meant* to be a walking trail, and other non-motorized use is discouraged but not explicitly allowed, you can tag 'foot=designated'.

107617247 over 4 years ago

Keep in mind the default access permissions that each kind of way allows. The 'highway=path' tag allows foot, horse and bicycle only, so if a trail does not allow one of those three, THEN you call it out with a tag. Anything other than those 3 is not allowed, so no need to tag it as such.

107617247 over 4 years ago

That's called overtagging, or "Tag Bloat". Ways tagged as 'path' by default allow foot traffic and don't allow motor vehicle traffic. It's like you adding 'motor_vehicle=yes' to an arterial road - it's not needed and an overuse of these kind of tags slows down the database.
Mapbox is actually starting to alert on tags like these as "Irrelevant Highway Tag", so those tags will probably just be removed again by someone else after you put them back.
Hope that helps explain - happy mapping!

107333977 over 4 years ago

Thx Andy - Sorry for the delay in responding. I was trying to answer back via OSMCha and it wasn't cooperating.
I was actually searching for changes from both Bogotov and Yocomik in OSMCha and found some other junk. Fixed some of it.
Cape Canaveral->Cape Kennedy was fun. *grimace*
I haven't used Overpass in a while - I'll have to dig back into it again to see if there's anything else that needs fixing.

27990066 over 4 years ago

I think I just figured it out. Not CANL, it's "Can I".

27990066 over 4 years ago

I see you're still mapping - since this change is from 6 years ago I understand if your memory is blank on this... but you named a hiking/biking trail "Canl" (way/209973143). Any idea what the name was meant to be? Thanks in advance...

88732731 over 4 years ago

Ne tenez pas compte de mon commentaire - je vois que vous êtes local sur le terrain. Peut-être que depuis que vous êtes là-bas, vous pourrez résoudre de nombreux problèmes de dénomination des villages dans les régions de Beni / Butembo?

88732731 over 4 years ago

I don't think this is Mangodomu - where did you get this placename data?
When you list a source, "knowledge" says nothing - you need to actually list a source!

104061055 over 4 years ago

Hi there - please don't use 'highway=trunk' - that should only be used for the SINGLE most important highway in an area!

102862994 over 4 years ago

I have already deleted them - no need to.

102862994 over 4 years ago

Hello - Please stop creating fake routes and objects. Your mapping assistance is greatly appreciated in Mali, but what you're doing is considered map vandalism, and is NOT helpful at all. Thanks

102715347 over 4 years ago

@Narayana Sadasivam You cannot just insert fantasy points-of-interest (POI's) into tasks you are working. These are REAL Places! M'Pegoumba does not have a bus stop, or playground, or an open market. Your changes will need to be reverted, not only on this project, but on all projects you are inserting non-existent POI's into.
Please stop doing this - this is NOT helpful!