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78833648 almost 6 years ago

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78833648 almost 6 years ago

But with all due respect, what I show about tram-train are proposals (and I assume it is SUI GENERIS for OSM). Maybe this is a "off-topic", and you have the right to say this coment.

I am not the only one, another user is checking if it is correct to keep the tram stops in this relation (in Ukraine): relation/8765532#map=19/47.88220/33.38318

All this could be solved if the documentation allowed "tram stop" (or maybe I don't see it, I guess you know better than me Mr Kofler).

PS: I added a note tag in route master about this discussion. I would appreciate it if you DON'T EDIT it because you would save foreign mappers to understand why the route is "hybrid."

78833648 about 6 years ago

...And RIver Line, tram-train, but tagged like light rail with light rail stations (from some tram stops with "station" definition). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Line_(NJ_Transit) PS: I updated this network to this modality for the reasons already indicated at the beginning of this discussion. Which I agree to have a new tag called route=tram-train.

78833648 about 6 years ago

...Or Kyoto: relation/10238008 (Some tram stops are stations).

78833648 about 6 years ago

Thanks Rudolf for a more honest and hopeful answer. You are right that there is a misinterpretation of "station" and it is precisely because the route is labeled "light rail" (for the validaor). It would be correct to declare the route as "tram" because there are tram stops. However, seeing on Wikipedia I found the clearest definition "tram-train" (not to call "hybrid light rail tram"). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram-train

Unfortunately there is no information about it in OSM. It would be interesting to add a suggestion about this type of route.And I do not mean Vienna, but several routes that lead in the world. For example UK (http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/uks-first-ever-tram-train-launches-in-yorkshire-)

78833648 about 6 years ago

Sorry for some inconvenience in writing, but I had to give an opinion on my participation.

78833648 about 6 years ago

railway=light_rail This articles lacks of information about hybrid light rail/tram transport.

> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Stationen_der_Lokalbahn_Wien%E2%80%93Baden
When you quote "Mayerhofgasse is NOT a station", I saw another article on Wikipedia and it says station in German language. And that is the problem about the "station" term for OSM. By the way, I am using the maps.me validator (https://github.com/mapsme/subways) that verifies if the stops are linked to a station. I will leave the message for the team to read and find a consensus.

78833648 about 6 years ago

I counterargument:
* Wikipedia says 36 stations, not stops.
* According to OSM Wiki (railway=tram_stop):
* "[...] It is used on tram tracks (railway=tram) and also on light rail tracks (railway=light_rail) where the halt ressembles more a tram stop than a railway halt (railway=halt)." Why railway=halt is inappropriate in some "stations".
* For a hybrid route between light rail and tram, why is the WLB relation is maintained as route = light_rail?

78833648 about 6 years ago

Greetings. The detail is that the route is indicated to light rail and I take to upgrade the stations. About station tag in buildings is controversial (I set POIs of stations in Japan, but I don't sure if is permitted in this country), so some of them have tagged railway = halt to indicate that it is a halt.

75110055 about 6 years ago

Sorry for late reply. I put the location of the subway station because I saw that the stops were there, so I didn't set the real location of this station. Anyway, thanks for that detail.

66481810 over 6 years ago

I was searching the english name from website and Wikipedia data. Thanks for the suggestion.

73366439 over 6 years ago

This note is only a clarification, related to the stations rendering.

73938679 over 6 years ago

* Mumbay monorail

73729173 over 6 years ago

* Newark Light Rail

73366439 over 6 years ago

This solution avoids "redundant" rendering on the map. As a result, the map only shows the light rail stations.

71725087 over 6 years ago

Ok.

72578515 over 6 years ago

* 3 (not 4)

72574278 over 6 years ago

Updated interval keys, create some rush hour routes, see notes. Better information about opening hours.

71877409 over 6 years ago

Thank you for your fast reply.

71877409 over 6 years ago

Meanwhile, I'll be waiting to find some error. Also, this is the page that indicates if there is a error in the Hong Hong routes from this validator. The results are updated about 3 times a day. http://osm-subway.maps.me/china.html