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116517384 almost 4 years ago

Hello again!

This is a really unique helipad! I think you've done a pretty good job tagging it here.

It's not 100% right to have a taxiway there, as helicopters seem to just hover over road itself, but I don't believe there is a better tag. We can always create a brand new tag for it; do you have any ideas or knowledge that could help?

Good work. :)
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116517557 almost 4 years ago

Hello!

Thanks so much for your edits so far. I can see you're really busy in some areas of the state that don't tend to get a lot of attention!

I noticed you've created quite a few helipads in remote areas. The tagging system for helipads can be a bit unconventional, but some of these helipads look to be designated emergency landing sites. Rather than aeroway=helipad, I'd suggest emergency=landing_site is a more appropriate alternative. emergency=landing_site

Happy to help out further if needed; keep up the good work! :)
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115465809 almost 4 years ago

That sounds like an excellent plan, thanks Michael :)

115465809 almost 4 years ago

Hey Michael.

It was pretty confusing trying to establish the actual definition of the Bay Trail.

My starting point was the official government datasources (namely, VICNAMES and Vicmap Transport) which show the Bay Trail taking a sharp left at the Cenotaph and ending at Beach Road.

This is obviously different to the previous version of OSM, where Bay Trail extended all the way to the Mordialloc Creek Trail in George Woods Reserve (and across the punt, but that's not relevant to this! :))

I did a lot of googling, which didn't particularly help.

The Wikipedia article for the trail seems to think that the Bay Trail starts near Seaford railway station, but after checking the sources there I believe that the article conflates the formally gazetted "Bay Trail" with a network of trails that are connected across the bay (Seaford Wetlands, Mordi Creek, Dandy Creek, etc).

Most council publications or cycle routes didn't list the names of each trail, or at least didn't clearly show where each one started and ended.

Failing all that, I fell back on KartaView/Mapillary imagery. Nepean is too far away to capture any signage, and there was only two trails I could find on the footpath were six years old and facing the west, so would not have shown any sign on for those heading towards Mordialloc.

I'm very interested that there is a signpost that I might have missed; I guess the question then would turn to where Bay stops and the Mordialloc Creek trail starts?

116318331 almost 4 years ago

Hey Michael,

I changed the two driveways you had tagged as highway=track to be highway=service, as this looked to be what you intended. Apologies if I've made an incorrect assumption.
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95575274 almost 4 years ago

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93440153 almost 4 years ago

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93359799 almost 4 years ago

Hello,

I've reverted some of the changes you made to the boundary nodes here, which affects the shape of the suburb. try to avoid touching the boundary nodes if you can in future :) (116209290)

116045298 almost 4 years ago

No worries :)

I certainly don't feel as though it is causing any harm by adding this data to nodes, and I wouldn't advocate for someone to actively remove the data that has already been added. I reached out because I saw you were potentially about to embark on a large piece of work with the challengre - I know how it feels to work on a big project only to find it's less important than I first thought. My free time is limited these days, and my fear of opportunity costs is real :)

Definitely agree with you that there could be some clarity on the Australian Guidelines. I'm not sure if you are already on the talk-au mailing list (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au) but I've found it to be relatively active and everyone I've encountered has been helpful and encouraging.

116045298 almost 4 years ago

I'm happy to give a very basic explanation; obviously every piece of software/implementation will be different and I am in no way an expert. :)

The default OSM map using Nominatim (osm.wiki/Nominatim) to convert search queries to actual locations. The way it works is pretty neat: https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/details.html?osmtype=N&osmid=9242317546&class=place

If the postcode is attached to the suburb relation (which, in Noble Park's case, it isn't), it can pull the data from there, otherwise it does rely on some "magic" by looking at places nearby. The quickest way to attach a postcode to all these houses would be to add it to the suburb relation, which will allow the postcode to flow through with the suburb (https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/details.html?osmtype=N&osmid=6150731669&class=building)

For other programs and services, determining which boundaries apply to a particular point is a fairly standard function of GIS software. I can appreciate your concern about computational load, though I would suggest that the extra storage space required for the postcodes on each node would outweigh any marginal benefit.