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148228217 almost 2 years ago

(My replies are asterisked)

The fact that the operator calls it a halt?

* The name is irrelevant to defining an object, it could be named 'Joe Bloggs'. Naming it 'halt' doesn't define what a halt is.

It's a common pattern on preserved railways to distinguish between "full service" stations catering to tourists (i.e. with a car park) and "only a halt" where the only expected customers are walkers.

* "With a car park". See? Yet another subjective, personal interpretation of the meaning of the word 'halt'. Classifying all railway stations as 'railway=station' & adding fact-based sub tags, such as 'usage=tourism' & 'request_stop=yes' etc. removes ambiguity, making the OSM database more accurate.

But frankly, the definition of a halt is beside the point.

* No it's not. The very basis of OSM is how objects are defined. The whole wiki is a list of definitions. That 'halt' is provably subjective sits badly within OSM.

My irritation is with overriding the work done by local mappers based on individual opinion.

* It was undertaken after discussion on Talk-Gb
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-January/024096.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-February/thread.html#24097

* Some concurred, some gave additional details, no one objected.

* Changing them from station to halt was performed unilaterally, overriding the work performed by contributors.

It doesn't sit well with a collaborative project.

* It was a collaboration.

* I note the Wikipedia pages describe them as 'railway stations'

148228217 almost 2 years ago

From what I can gather (people don't reply to my enquiries), the data in the graphic was invented by a few German rail enthusiasts. I've struggled to find any information that it's a wide spread interpretation (even in Germany). In the GB discussions no one had any comprehension of it. It's ridiculous to determine the busyness/size of a station by "where trains can change from one track to another track."
There's so much wrong with that graphic:
Misunderstands what a siding is.
Almost all (all?) multi-track stations have crossovers nearby.
A nearby junction has no bearing whatsoever.

You'd have thought this page would mention it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_railway_station_categories

@phodgkin What is the officially agreed demarcation line between a halt & a station? Name one that you perceive as a halt, but if the criteria you use to determine it increased slightly would make it a station? Likewise, name a station that would become a halt if your criteria reduced?

148386311 almost 2 years ago

Hi
The Destructor Bridge is a truss & Windsor Br is definitely not a hump (beam).

bridge:structure=*

147894590 almost 2 years ago

Hi
I saw a Air Ambulance Charity sign over the old Lloyds Bank, but the shelves were empty. Do you know if it's about to open or is it losing?
https://snipboard.io/Cmlsxj.jpg

147695742 almost 2 years ago

Hi
node/10146740462#map=18/51.66540/-3.14223

There is already a railway=station node for this station.

147683048 almost 2 years ago

Hi
Goog to see FHRS being updated, but instead of deleting out of dates ones could you change them to disabled:fhrs:id instead.

It's useful for checking verifying old retailers.

147342682 almost 2 years ago

Hi
Instead of just removing the URLs, why not search for an updated link, or if it's a case the business has closed down, remove all the relevant tags?

147080891 almost 2 years ago

Hi
What rule in Osmose informed you to remove area tags from platforms?

146989221 almost 2 years ago

What is "not:ref:GB:the_circuit"?

146855794 almost 2 years ago

Hi
There's already a railway station.

way/71489225

146816716 almost 2 years ago

It's a recreation ground, hireable to anyone who wants to rent it.
Bath Rugby Club are just tenants.

146714439 almost 2 years ago

Hi
Why have you added a duplicating railway station?

145018066 almost 2 years ago

Hi
It's very rough looking. Are you sure it still used for cricket? Website appears unused.

144676425 almost 2 years ago

Open to horses only?!

https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn/status/1746520497137897517

146241741 almost 2 years ago

It's a rope bridge!

146151249 almost 2 years ago

Hi
Could you please ensure the imagery background is aligned correctly before adding or amending buildings and avoid connecting them to roads and other objects. Your previous edits in the area require a lot of readjusting.

145202260 almost 2 years ago

Please don't delete data which is still relevant. Use the 'disused:' prefix if closed.

Although the pub still appears to be open.
https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Waldegrave-Arms-East-Harptree-100083455774267/

145925849 almost 2 years ago

No, you removed the railway-station primary tag.

Hopefully re-adding the *accurate* data will encourage you to make more accurate edits & refrain from arrogant, aggressive comments such as: "DO NOT RE-EDIT".

145925849 almost 2 years ago

This is a railway station. There's no implication it is part of National Rail as it doesn't have NR operator, or ref:crs tags and is clearly marked with usage=tourism.

Please don't make edits you don't comprehend.

142261457 almost 2 years ago

Ah, OK. As you added fee-no I assumed you'd know if it was in use.